I don’t have much of a problem either way as I don’t think I’ll be engaging in political discussion on this website past this post but it seems like any sort of non-left wing opinions or posts are immediately trashed on here. That’s fine. There’s clearly a more liberal audience here and that’s okay. I just don’t want Lemmy to become a echo chamber for any side and it seems to be that way when it comes to politics already.
Mostly making this post just to drum up discussion as I’m new here.
Edit: Thanks for the rational replies. I was expecting to get lit up for even mentioning this topic lol.
Conservatives I can deal with, but modern right wingers have lost their goddamn minds.
And the entire issue is that a lot of people who view themselves as moderate conservatives are enabling this ideological brain rot by not vocally disassociating it with more reasonable conservative positions. Because of that, I am way more comfortable saying that conservative voices should be viewed with suspicion than I used to be.
This is exactly how I feel. I even agree with some conservative ideas, but the fact that single-issue voters will condone so much lunacy in their party just because the candidate spouting it is on the red team makes me give any conservative the extreme side eye these days.
Agreed.
There were far too many things that were obvious red flags/deal breakers about many of their candidates, and I have a very hard time reconciling that people who I thought were “decent” were able to still vote for that.
I don’t mind disagreeing on politics. But too much of the right-wing party’s agenda right now is focused on hate and bigotry, and the fact that so-called “conservatives” willingly vote for it is honestly terrifying.
My brother is conservative. Small C. He recognises that the Tories are a shower of pricks and wants them to actually do conservative things, rather than focus on race baiting and hatred. I can talk politics with him, and enjoy doing so even though I’m getting more and more commie as every year passes.
He’s not a right wing shithead.
IMO, if they can bring well reasoned arguments based on some identifiably ideology that recognizes the rights of others to believe, think and act differently, then there is space for a conversation. But if they open with slurs and demogogory, then separate spaces are best. Like, if you want to support Trump on his policies and point to specific policy agendas and/or achievements, and we can have a conversation, its worth engaging. Or if you a Bernie Bro, let’s have the chat about how it would look.
My biggest fear with the MAGA-fication of the republican party is that we have lost the ability to have a “loyal opposition” (a great aspect of Parliamentary system) where the party points out the flaws of policy. It’s really something else when the party out of power tries to help the party in power understand the implications from the other sides POV. If a populists was to rise within the Democratic side, we could get the progressive version of Trump, and that should scare us.
My ultimate fear is a fake democrat gets elected.