I don’t have much of a problem either way as I don’t think I’ll be engaging in political discussion on this website past this post but it seems like any sort of non-left wing opinions or posts are immediately trashed on here. That’s fine. There’s clearly a more liberal audience here and that’s okay. I just don’t want Lemmy to become a echo chamber for any side and it seems to be that way when it comes to politics already.
Mostly making this post just to drum up discussion as I’m new here.
Edit: Thanks for the rational replies. I was expecting to get lit up for even mentioning this topic lol.
One issue is that it sometimes gets hard to discuss something like “lower taxes for businesses” because some people will assume you want to murder all gay people and others come along who actually do want to do that and think they are on you’re side…
When positions are too simplifed into left vs right and all your other positions are assumed to be in line with the left vs. right debate there will never be any real discussion.
Sure. The people who make that assumption are being rational in doing so, IMO.
Part of the reason for this is that people use the “lower taxes” thing as an excuse for, for example, having voted for Trump. “Oh no I’m not into all the cruel shit, I’m just a Fiscal Conservative™️” won’t convince anyone because nowadays you can’t vote for “lower taxes for businesses” without also voting for “trans people are all pedophiles”. Check your nearest Republican state legislature for verification of that fact.
Of course, the other important caveat is that “lower taxes for businesses” is usually packaged with “more deregulation”, which in itself is cruel, always gets implemented haphazardly, and never promotes the safe and sustainable economic growth that is promised.
I agree they are in a sense being rational because those beliefs do frequently go together. But doing so really eliminates any chance of a productive conversation. Maybe that wasn’t going to happen anyway, but now it’s definitely not going to happen. If we assume someone is always the most likely kind of person we’ll never talk to an actual person, just what we assume a person to be.
Wrapping “lower tax for business” in the culture war business is something done by the right-wing media and major political parties themselves(mainly using it as a guise to hide behind hateful policy)…
Jumping to conclusions on someone who just says they are conservative is a form of prejudice just like any kind of stereotyping.
However, as soon as they bring stuff up that indicates they care a lot about what people do in the bedroom, bathroom or they characterize a lot of what they don’t like as woke, the room for productive discussion narrows significantly.
fair enough!