I don’t have much of a problem either way as I don’t think I’ll be engaging in political discussion on this website past this post but it seems like any sort of non-left wing opinions or posts are immediately trashed on here. That’s fine. There’s clearly a more liberal audience here and that’s okay. I just don’t want Lemmy to become a echo chamber for any side and it seems to be that way when it comes to politics already.
Mostly making this post just to drum up discussion as I’m new here.
Edit: Thanks for the rational replies. I was expecting to get lit up for even mentioning this topic lol.
@straycatfrump - you are arguing against a point that Lionir is not making. Please assume good faith when engaging with users on Beehaw. Our one rule is: Be(e) Nice.
I’m saying it’s dumb to give the kind of answers people are giving in this post. We should’ve just said “yes, reactionaries are unwelcome” and moved on. It’s not “nice” to help them organize to murder me, so I take exception to you characterizing only MY participation as not being nice.
Many conservatives want to murder me too, but that’s not my takeaway from this thread. Nor are all conservative opinions necessarily hateful - the modern Republican party in the United States has certainly has chosen to center hate, but ideas on how large a government should be, for example, are not necessarily rooted in hate.
I won’t take away your right to point out that the modern right wing party in the US is intolerant and therefore deserving of scorn, but we do need you to assume good faith of other users on Beehaw, especially when considering we are a global website. Feel free to ask questions to get them to show that they are acting in bad faith or report comments which you think are hiding malice.
You are referring to classical conservatism, which died a looooooooooooooong time ago. Those “conservatives” who are seriously concerned about government having too much power over us—i.e. in the oppressive state apparatus composed of policing, military, spying, etc.—are not right-wing. They are leftists. In the sense that Chomsky says he is a “conservative”. The state already has so much power over us that sloughing that off is a revolutionary change, not one of conservation.
So no. That has nothing to do with this conversation. The ones who want to abolish social programs aren’t concerned with “government overreach”. That’s just their propaganda. They just want to discipline, abuse, and torture the working class so that we are docile little wage slaves.
Again agreed and please go off like this - criticize what deserves criticism and feel free to frame it through the lens of oppression which it deserves. But until the person comes out and confirms these are the viewpoints they hold we’re just asking for you to ask them so they can confirm they are hateful people first.