Sanity won imo. We can argue all day about what responsible Ai use is, but distro projects without allowing AI use at all and are serious about it are dead in the water. What are they supposed to d do? Disconnect with upstream?
There are more kernel forks every day, fuck the sloppers. From where I’m sitting the slop distros which allow or even rely on AI are sick with a cancer and doomed.
I don’t fundamentally disagree with the sentiment, but local models are mostly benign as long as you actually understand the code you’re submitting and rewrite it to remove the slop portions. Plus prohibiting it entirely just means people will lie about using LLMs. I do think Debian should have mandated people disclose whether/how AI was used for any given commit tho
I don’t care if people look at the leaked Windows source code, frankly they should lie about doing so to avoid being sued. I don’t understand what your point is supposed to be.
What were they supposed to d do? Disconnect with upstream?
Use non-slopified alternatives. There are lists such as Open Slopware that document where to get alternatives.
Or just fork the last non-slopified version and work from there. For already-mature software, should not make that much difference in the short term for a distro that seeks out stable long-term behaviour (things would be vastly different if this was Arch).
Sanity won imo. We can argue all day about what responsible Ai use is, but distro projects without allowing AI use at all and are serious about it are dead in the water. What are they supposed to d do? Disconnect with upstream?
There are more kernel forks every day, fuck the sloppers. From where I’m sitting the slop distros which allow or even rely on AI are sick with a cancer and doomed.
None of the proposals would have banned AI usage in upstream projects:
https://www.debian.org/vote/2026/vote_002
It’s not like the Debian policy teams have the power do that to remote dev teams anyway tho. At best they can discard an upstream done with AI.
“wah, they dead in the water if they ban the slop theft machine!”
I don’t fundamentally disagree with the sentiment, but local models are mostly benign as long as you actually understand the code you’re submitting and rewrite it to remove the slop portions. Plus prohibiting it entirely just means people will lie about using LLMs. I do think Debian should have mandated people disclose whether/how AI was used for any given commit tho
What about prohibiting people from looking at the leaked windows source code? It just encourages people to lie about it.
I don’t care if people look at the leaked Windows source code, frankly they should lie about doing so to avoid being sued. I don’t understand what your point is supposed to be.
Should wine ban it though, it just encourages people to lie 3:
Nooo, you see chosing utilitarian position is a sin.
Use non-slopified alternatives. There are lists such as Open Slopware that document where to get alternatives.
Or just fork the last non-slopified version and work from there. For already-mature software, should not make that much difference in the short term for a distro that seeks out stable long-term behaviour (things would be vastly different if this was Arch).
Yep. There is a middle ground with generative AI and they’ve struck the right balance.