Which American city is best for raising free children?
With 90s-and-earlier style independence. Could it be Salt Lake City? Inspired by this:
“Utah Free Range Parenting Law […] says that letting your kids play outside, walk to school, wait briefly in the car (under some circumstances) or come home with a latchkey is not neglect unless something else seriously bad is going on.”
https://letgrow.org/state/utah/
#urbanism #WalkableCities #SaltLakeCity #SLC #Utah #parenting #childhood


“I want to raise my kids free. Is this religious theocracy ran by a literal cult with a long history of religious indoctrination, theocratic control, and suppression of thought, as well as institutionalized homophobia and transphobia be the answer?”
Yeah we’ve got some wildly different ideas of the definition of free.
Few things
1.) This is entirely a problem invented by the paranoid and delusional. People aren’t having their kids snatched because they walked home from school or has their kids sit in an air conditioned car or playing at a park by themselves. This is right wing fear mongering at it’s fucking finest.
2.) You have the audacity to mask your paranoia with “it happens all the time to blacks and natives”. Want to know how I know you aren’t black or indigenous? Because no black or indigenous people are fleeing to a theocratic fascist racist ass place like salt lake city. You can just admit you’re a white person who reads too many homestead and mommy blogs.
3.) CPS has better things to be doing than snatching kids for being outside. My wife, who is black, was horrifically abused growing up. I mean horrific. Living in squalor when she did have a home and living homeless for most of her life. CPS investigated a few times and never once removed her or her siblings from the hell they were living in. In the other side of the coin my sister is a foster parent who takes in children who have been removed from homes by CPS. And far too many times we’ve seen kids be returned back to parents who were unwilling and unable to take care of their kids. In talking drug abuse, parents being prostitutes, etc. Not white parents pretending to be a victim because they let their kids play outside.
To add to your first point, it’s actually safer than “back in the day” for kids. They’re also much more likely to be abused/abducted by a trusted relative than a stranger. Much like airplane crashes though, abductions make headlines so everyone thinks they’re much more prevalent.
Every single person who abused my wife growing up was someone she loved and trusted. It was entirely people who didn’t want the government or cps telling them how to raise a kid because they know how to do it because they are old school and have “common sense”. Never once was it an abduction
This post is unnecessarily hostile.
Nah, this is the exact amount of hostility an op like this deserves.
Uhg. 🙄
I wish people could be nicer to each other. Nothing about OP or their post implies they are asking in anything less than good faith.
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Please assume good faith and provide arguments to support your point of view rather than throwing insults. Reconsider how you engage with others please.
What’s wrong with Utah? It was my favorite state to visit on my cross country road trip. Beautiful state. I’m not really interested in your response anyway, please just leave me alone.
Utah is a beautiful state sure. But it’s also the headquarters of the Mormon cult. I grew up in the cult so don’t try and tell me it isn’t a cult. Utah was founded by Mormons and Mormons control the entire state. The Utah legislature is an extension of the Mormon church. Utah goes hard for trump. The state is very hostile to LGBT people and atheists. Outside of the government being hostile the Mormon community looks down on and ostracizes non members.
Your response is the epitome of privilege by the way. White cishet privilege is thinking a place would be a nice place to live because you thought it was beautiful on a vacation. It’s extremely obvious you don’t need to concern yourself with discrimination or bigotry.
Please assume good faith and respect when someone says they no longer want to engage. I will only keep this comment because it provides arguments for why you consider Utah to be a bad state. Disengage from this thread.
I’m transgender FFS. Sounds like something a terminally online person would say. I was treated with nothing but kindness and stayed there for several days. Not everyone is out to get you. I’m going to block you now.