Obviously. Though I’m not particularly fond of US “experts”. If some respectable EU authority says it’s (mostly) safe, I’m gonna believe it’s (mostly) safe.
This shit is already over the counter in much of Europe.
Did you do any research whatsoever about this before making such a confident statement about the “danger”? Or are you just going based on your feelings?
It’s not over the counter where I live (in Europe and EU) and there is no outrage about using anticonception, in fact it’s common for 15 yo to get on the pill, so there are no political or cultural reasons for it to be prescription. That’s what I was going on. Any more questions or projections from your side?
You’re conveniently ignoring the rise of the far right across Europe, and who are running countries like Hungary and Poland. There is a reason that those two counties, in particular, are rated extremely poorly with regards to access to contraception. And it’s not because of some perceived danger.
I’m going to respectfully step in and ask you two to please disengage with one another. This comment chain has strayed pretty well into “not nice” territory, and isn’t inspiring confidence that further back and forth will lead to productive discussion on this topic.
In the future I’d ask that you please try to remember to assume good faith from others here whenever you can. It’s pretty clear to me that you’re both fundamentally on the same side with respect to the importance of reproductive rights, there’s no reason this had to turn into a fight in the first place.
Um actually, he said an EU country. C’mon, get your shit together!
Thanks for the article though. I had the same initial reaction as this guy, including being less than trustful of American experts. Any extra evidence is welcomed!
When folks seem to discount the role of the FDA, I like to remind them of Thalidomide.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide_scandal]
Countries in Europe approved it for prevention of morning sickness. The US blocked it’s use.
In 2021 they already didn’t have to abide by EU rules (and they stopped abiding pretty much instantly about a lot). Look, I never said it’s not safe. I also didn’t say it’s safe. I live in a country where there’s no shame in telling your gynecologist that you want on the pill, so this is of no concern to me whatsoever, I just shared my opinion based on the facts I just mentioned.
I won’t advocate for using over-the-counter anticonception in my country, because here the system works. In US, it’s definitely a good thing because some religious zealots feel like a woman’s womb is their own property. The doctor knows you better than a pharmacist and if you can safely get a prescription, it’s always better.
Obviously. Though I’m not particularly fond of US “experts”. If some respectable EU authority says it’s (mostly) safe, I’m gonna believe it’s (mostly) safe.
This shit is already over the counter in much of Europe.
Did you do any research whatsoever about this before making such a confident statement about the “danger”? Or are you just going based on your feelings?
It’s not over the counter where I live (in Europe and EU) and there is no outrage about using anticonception, in fact it’s common for 15 yo to get on the pill, so there are no political or cultural reasons for it to be prescription. That’s what I was going on. Any more questions or projections from your side?
Ohhhh what was I projecting? Tell me more.
You’re conveniently ignoring the rise of the far right across Europe, and who are running countries like Hungary and Poland. There is a reason that those two counties, in particular, are rated extremely poorly with regards to access to contraception. And it’s not because of some perceived danger.
I said “much of Europe.”
I’m going to respectfully step in and ask you two to please disengage with one another. This comment chain has strayed pretty well into “not nice” territory, and isn’t inspiring confidence that further back and forth will lead to productive discussion on this topic.
In the future I’d ask that you please try to remember to assume good faith from others here whenever you can. It’s pretty clear to me that you’re both fundamentally on the same side with respect to the importance of reproductive rights, there’s no reason this had to turn into a fight in the first place.
[https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jul/08/contraceptive-pill-will-be-available-over-the-counter-for-the-first-time]
Here you go, approval in the UK from 2021.
Um actually, he said an EU country. C’mon, get your shit together!
Thanks for the article though. I had the same initial reaction as this guy, including being less than trustful of American experts. Any extra evidence is welcomed!
When folks seem to discount the role of the FDA, I like to remind them of Thalidomide. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide_scandal] Countries in Europe approved it for prevention of morning sickness. The US blocked it’s use.
In 2021 they already didn’t have to abide by EU rules (and they stopped abiding pretty much instantly about a lot). Look, I never said it’s not safe. I also didn’t say it’s safe. I live in a country where there’s no shame in telling your gynecologist that you want on the pill, so this is of no concern to me whatsoever, I just shared my opinion based on the facts I just mentioned.
I won’t advocate for using over-the-counter anticonception in my country, because here the system works. In US, it’s definitely a good thing because some religious zealots feel like a woman’s womb is their own property. The doctor knows you better than a pharmacist and if you can safely get a prescription, it’s always better.