• mobilizing the apathetic left-leaning masses.

    And how does voting for Joe Biden help us reach them? We need democrats to believe they need to reach left, not right. But they are a center/right party at this point and expecting them to go left because you want them to is lunacy.

    Republicans got you believing that voting for democrats that support them is your only option.

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      It is, that’s how a two-party system works. The Democratic Party needs to be reformed from within. Creating competition for it only ensures the failure of both and the rise of conservatism to power.

              • Well, best of luck trying to convince the center right that they should be left instead of starting a leftist party. I don’t think the dems should change, I think they are a great right wing party that I wish I didn’t have to vote for anymore.

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                  I understand your frustration, but again, that’s the nature of a two-party system. Your choice is between center-right and fascism. Adding more parties to the left of fascism just splits the vote and ensures fascist victory. Adding more to the right would be hard, since the Reps are pretty far right already. Though my hope for 2024 is that Trump get snubbed for the Rep nomination and makes his own party out of spite. I’d be pretty happy if that happened.

                  Getting a party to change its ideology is hard but not impossible. The Reps and Dems switched platforms once already.

                  • Sounds like we are fascists than. Guess we gotta wait for another county to declare war on us and come kill the Republicans who put all the leftists in concentration camps.