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  • For the people being manipulated, yes. That is usually a significant factor. Often the main one.

    The manipulators don’t actually have that concern though. They’re generally pretty well off. They just want to change the rules to be even more in their favor in any way possible no matter who it hurts.

      • Yes, but letting the rich get richer while the poor get poorer won’t actually help if you’re in the middle. That’s just a lie to make you feel good about other people getting screwed for the benefit of the people causing most of your problems.

        • Yes I think we both agree. If everyone has access to essential services then that helps everyone, including the people in the middle due to reduced corruption, crime etc.