I’m not here to coddle your feelings or tell you what you want to hear because what you don’t want to hear makes you too uncomfortable.
At the end of the day you’ll either try to be better or not, my tone is just an excuse for you to weasel out of actually doing even the bare minimum like trying to educate yourself.
You might be new to this, but I’m not, it’s the exact same bullshit excuses and derailing each time (you’ve done it again with the stay at home parents, trying to shift focus away from the actual problem)
And yes, I have been to the Netherlands, not that it matters one bit, capitalism is capitalism, and you guys still having the relatively (for obviously privileged people like you, anyway) easy to swallow mild version doesn’t mean it isn’t already decaying, and that the shit the rest of us (in Europe, by the way, I get the feeling you incorrectly presumed I’m American from your pointless and derailing question) are already dealing with isn’t already cooking for you (back to the point I made about educating yourself? If I can find one, two, three in 2 seconds of searching, so can you.)
Get your head out of your ass and if you genuinely care, go do something about it, I’m done spoon feeding your lazy ass, you’re head is taking up too much space for anything to actually sink in.
I’ll be honest, I don’t have the will nor the energy to talk you through anti-capitalism from the basics, it’s clear you’re not willing to actually make any effort, so neither am I.
I will just leave you with two things that stick out from this last reply:
Educate yourself on tone policing and stop doing it, it’s not only derailing to the conversation and providing you an excuse to ignore everything being said to you and to do fuck all, it’s also just plain rude and extremely condescending - don’t pretend to want to learn from someone (worse - naturally expect them to educate you) and than focus first and foremost (and almost entirely) on how they’re doing it (especially from your ignorant starting point, where you clearly have no idea about even the basics of the topic, let alone what kinds of oppressions people less privileged than you suffer daily, and just how much of an impact reality has on our lives. You being completely clueless and deliberately detached doesn’t mean you’re more “cool calm and collected” it just shows you lack any sort of passion, let alone relevant lived experience).
The second point I want to address is:
For example I understand that everyone in the Netherlands is privileged, including me
On a global scale, yes, people living in the Netherlands are, on average some of the most privileged, on a local scale however, absolutely not everyone in your country has the same privileges as you seem to (I assume because if you don’t/won’t see marginalisation, you’ve almost certainly never experienced it yourself), and the idea that they do is so absurd I don’t even know how to get you to see the reality around you when you refuse to open your eyes.
Do you seriously think there are no desperately poor people in your country? No homeless people? No disabled people? No racism? No sexism? No Islamophobia? No Anti-Semitism? No anti-migrant hate (which is a mix of a couple of the former)? No homophobia or transphobia?
Do you seriously think Dutch workers aren’t being exploited by the dozen billionaires in your country (and a bunch outside of it) that control the economy (by, at the very least, hoarding money that would otherwise be circulating)?
Do you seriously think your government works for the benefit of all of those marginalised people, and not for themselves and those aforementioned billionaires?
Whatever, it feels like I’m wasting my breath either way, like I said before - you either take your head out of your ass and look around for yourself at the reality around you and at the unimaginable wealth of information that exists at the tips of your fingers, or you don’t.
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I’m not here to coddle your feelings or tell you what you want to hear because what you don’t want to hear makes you too uncomfortable.
At the end of the day you’ll either try to be better or not, my tone is just an excuse for you to weasel out of actually doing even the bare minimum like trying to educate yourself.
You might be new to this, but I’m not, it’s the exact same bullshit excuses and derailing each time (you’ve done it again with the stay at home parents, trying to shift focus away from the actual problem)
And yes, I have been to the Netherlands, not that it matters one bit, capitalism is capitalism, and you guys still having the relatively (for obviously privileged people like you, anyway) easy to swallow mild version doesn’t mean it isn’t already decaying, and that the shit the rest of us (in Europe, by the way, I get the feeling you incorrectly presumed I’m American from your pointless and derailing question) are already dealing with isn’t already cooking for you (back to the point I made about educating yourself? If I can find one, two, three in 2 seconds of searching, so can you.)
Get your head out of your ass and if you genuinely care, go do something about it, I’m done spoon feeding your lazy ass, you’re head is taking up too much space for anything to actually sink in.
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I’ll be honest, I don’t have the will nor the energy to talk you through anti-capitalism from the basics, it’s clear you’re not willing to actually make any effort, so neither am I.
I will just leave you with two things that stick out from this last reply:
Educate yourself on tone policing and stop doing it, it’s not only derailing to the conversation and providing you an excuse to ignore everything being said to you and to do fuck all, it’s also just plain rude and extremely condescending - don’t pretend to want to learn from someone (worse - naturally expect them to educate you) and than focus first and foremost (and almost entirely) on how they’re doing it (especially from your ignorant starting point, where you clearly have no idea about even the basics of the topic, let alone what kinds of oppressions people less privileged than you suffer daily, and just how much of an impact reality has on our lives. You being completely clueless and deliberately detached doesn’t mean you’re more “cool calm and collected” it just shows you lack any sort of passion, let alone relevant lived experience).
The second point I want to address is:
On a global scale, yes, people living in the Netherlands are, on average some of the most privileged, on a local scale however, absolutely not everyone in your country has the same privileges as you seem to (I assume because if you don’t/won’t see marginalisation, you’ve almost certainly never experienced it yourself), and the idea that they do is so absurd I don’t even know how to get you to see the reality around you when you refuse to open your eyes.
Do you seriously think there are no desperately poor people in your country? No homeless people? No disabled people? No racism? No sexism? No Islamophobia? No Anti-Semitism? No anti-migrant hate (which is a mix of a couple of the former)? No homophobia or transphobia?
Do you seriously think Dutch workers aren’t being exploited by the dozen billionaires in your country (and a bunch outside of it) that control the economy (by, at the very least, hoarding money that would otherwise be circulating)?
Do you seriously think your government works for the benefit of all of those marginalised people, and not for themselves and those aforementioned billionaires?
Whatever, it feels like I’m wasting my breath either way, like I said before - you either take your head out of your ass and look around for yourself at the reality around you and at the unimaginable wealth of information that exists at the tips of your fingers, or you don’t.
I’m seriously done here.