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abogical ( @abogical@lemmy.one ) English67•7 months agoHow is this NOT the Onion?
hex_m_hell ( @hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net ) English40•7 months agoWow, imagine how bad this would be if the Dutch had the ability to think less of the English.
Edit: I imagine the plan involved British agents smelling like weed and standing in the bike lane yelling “woooo!” so as to go unnoticed.
jormaig ( @jormaig@programming.dev ) English33•7 months agoWouldn’t this invoke NATO against the UK and demand a lot of reparations?
circuscritic ( @circuscritic@lemmy.ca ) English24•7 months agoI assume you mean Article 5, and no, yes, maybe, but probably no.
Article 5’s requirement is that the members convene to discuss a response to an attack, not an obligation to attack.
Furthermore, this sounds more like an even dumber dumb Watergate, but with arguably, a moral justification i.e. covert burglary, maybe even armed robbery, for vaccines contracted to the UK.
geissi ( @geissi@feddit.de ) English11•7 months agoArticle 42.7 of the EU Charta would also apply and is a bit more direct:
If a Member State is the victim of armed aggression on its territory, the other Member States shall have towards it an obligation of aid and assistance by all the means in their power
tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺 ( @tryptaminev@feddit.de ) English6•7 months agoIt is not armed robbery when the military is sent to another country. war is ultimately always about ressources, so you could argue every war to just be an armed robbery gone wrong.
If someone sends their military to another coubtry without this countries explicit consent it is an act of war.
circuscritic ( @circuscritic@lemmy.ca ) English2•7 months agoYou can semantically argue anything you want, but ultimately I can’t imagine any scenario where this would have been an actual war, or even resembling one.
If the goal was to seize assets contained within a one, or just several buildings, the most likely way this would have played out would have been covert foreign intelligence teams, not an SAS commando raid with a bodycount.
Would it have been incredibly dumb, and probably end up with the intelligence officers/assets arrested? Sure.
Would it have been anything like a HVT snatch and grab in Afghanistan? No. Just no.
Like I said, an even dumber, dumb Watergate.
jormaig ( @jormaig@programming.dev ) English1•7 months agoYes I meant article 5 but did not remember the number 🙈🙈. Thanks!
CJOtheReal ( @CJOtheReal@ani.social ) English9•7 months agoThats the same question as with Greece and Turkey.
But in the end the entire EU would stand against them for shure. And USA would either not interfere or be on EUs side.
DarkThoughts ( @DarkThoughts@kbin.social ) 1•7 months agoNot much of a question. If a NATO country attacks another NATO country then the attacked country still has the right to invoke article 5.
muggedTassi ( @muggedTassi@feddit.de ) English4•7 months agoNah, not if the UK calls it the Leiden Invasion Act /s
misk ( @misk@sopuli.xyz ) English21•7 months agoWhat in the actual fucking fuck lol. I mean, times seemed dire but Jesus fucking Christ on rollerskates.
vzq ( @vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English18•7 months agoWith friends like these, right?
tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺 ( @tryptaminev@feddit.de ) English10•7 months agoThe EU should increase its export tax on food products to the UK by 500% for a month and compensate the affected farmers.
Let them have a christmas on potato and chlorinated chicken.
Tarte ( @Tarte@kbin.social ) 13•7 months agoThe EU doesn’t use food and medicine as a weapon. Even Russia is still getting all the food and medicine they want to import.
tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺 ( @tryptaminev@feddit.de ) English4•7 months agoIt wouldnt be weaponized. The UK can still buy these products. It is only that the sale would incurr an additional tax that has to be paid by the exporting company.
Also the EU supports the US in its sanctions against Iran and has supported the sanctions against Iraq, that killed more than half a Million Iraqi childrens in the 90s by affecting food and medicine. The reimposed sanctions have lead to drastic inflation for food and rising food insecurity in Iran.
So it is not a moral stance of the EU. It is purely strategical and i find a strategic response to invasion plans perfectly appropriate
Quokka ( @Marsupial@quokk.au ) English5•7 months agoYou’re literally suggesting weaponising tariffs.
tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺 ( @tryptaminev@feddit.de ) English2•7 months agoHow is it “weaponized”? A weapon can injure and kill someone. If the UK needs to pay more for vegetables they import from countries they deemed an invasion discussable for, then this is hardly “weaponized”. If the UK fails to provide its citizens with normal goods then it is an expression of systematic failure. Also the EU used tariffs on food products to handle the trade war instigated by Trump. How is that not an appropriate response to plans of a military invasion?
Loaf ( @Loaf@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English2•7 months agoSounds like a great idea, I’m sure that’ll be a top quality learning experience for the poor who are already facing a cost of living crisis, that’ll really teach them…
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Boris Johnson’s appearance before the Covid-19 inquiry is not until Wednesday but it is already making headlines in the Netherlands amid a mixture of amusement and alarm at claims he asked for British spies to plan a “raid” on a Dutch vaccine plant.
The operation – according to sources who briefed Johnson’s employer, the Daily Mail – would have taken place against the backdrop of a tit-for-tat row in March 2021 between the then prime minister and the EU, which was moving towards restricting exports of vaccines across the Channel.
An “enraged” Johnson asked security services to draw up “military options” to obtain “impounded” doses of AstraZeneca vaccine from a plant in Leiden after Britain had negotiated a deal with the company.
But while Britain’s security services were spared their biggest debacle on Dutch soil since Operation Market Garden, the claim has been widely reported on front pages in the Netherlands.
Elsewhere, Russian state media generated a po-faced report on the claims, interspersing clips of Johnson with footage of British special forces and overlaying them with a sinister backing track.
Johnson is expected to admit some fault when he is cross examined at the inquiry but will also seek to talk up the things that he believed he got right, ranging from the vaccines rollout to eventually opening up the economy.
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Gork ( @Gork@lemm.ee ) English8•7 months agoThat hair tho
nicetriangle ( @nicetriangle@kbin.social ) 6•7 months agoLol so fucking stupid
kralk ( @kralk@lemm.ee ) English6•7 months agoDead cat dead cat dead cat
robyoung ( @robyoung@beehaw.org ) English3•7 months agoTotally. The fact that this was released well before his appearance by his own camp smells very dead catish.
taladar ( @taladar@feddit.de ) English2•7 months agoPresumably you are talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_cat_strategy ?