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I’ll believe it when I can buy it.
- macrocephalic ( @macrocephalic@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) English6•1 year ago
Isn’t this the same Toyota who were saying this year that electric only cars weren’t the future?
- iamnotme ( @iamnotme@beehaw.org ) English5•1 year ago
Those two things aren’t mutually exclusive though.
They use batteries in their hybrid tech, and if they can make money selling battery tech to other companies of course they are going to. It doesn’t mean they believe electric only is now the way forward.
- macrocephalic ( @macrocephalic@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) English1•1 year ago
But if you create a battery which basically fixes all the problems with electric cars then you’re going to go all in on it.
- iamnotme ( @iamnotme@beehaw.org ) English1•1 year ago
Creating the battery doesn’t fix all the problems.
You still have the issue of electricity supply.
- macrocephalic ( @macrocephalic@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) English1•1 year ago
That’s a problem with a known solution though. We have the tech and processes we need to scale out the electricity grid. Everyone driving around a 60kwh+ battery will probably help find solutions to peak load as well.
Yeah, but I think they were looking at hydrogen instead, which you can apparently burn in an internal combustion engine or use in a fuel cell.
- jkflying ( @jkflying@discuss.tchncs.de ) English1•1 year ago
Yes, but then they got a new CEO who is going all-in on electric and ditching hydrogen.
- moonspiders ( @moonspiders@discuss.tchncs.de ) English3•1 year ago
I think I might have heard something similar a year ago. Actually, I might have heard it every year for the past 10 years
- crashez ( @crashez@discuss.tchncs.de ) English1•1 year ago
Don’t buy it. I can’t believe the ongoing hype around electric cars. Just another layer of pollution on top. Drive less. Create walkable cities. Where is c/fuckcars btw?
I mean, it’s a smaller layer of pollution but I, too, would rather have mass transit and walkable cities
- moonspiders ( @moonspiders@discuss.tchncs.de ) English2•1 year ago
Well, there are scenarios where cars are the right choice - goods delivery, countryside with low density and small towns,… In that case, battery-powered electric cars could be the best option
- Emoba ( @Emoba@discuss.tchncs.de ) English1•1 year ago
Bullshit. Would public transport be better? Yeah. Are governments going to build public transport systems to get rid of cars in the next few years? Absolutely not.
Electric cars aren’t “just another layer of pollution on top.” They objectively pollute much less. They don’t come without a CO2 footprint, but it’s literally the next best thing to do to somehow reduce the carbon emissions while people are arguing over how to reduce traffic. Traffic is “just” about our quality of life but greenhouse gases are about the survival of humanity and arguing we shouldn’t reduce emissions of the latter because that doesn’t improve the former is like arguing that we shouldn’t try to stop bleeding out because that doesn’t also clean up the mess we made after shooting our leg.
- crashez ( @crashez@discuss.tchncs.de ) English1•1 year ago
Every time we change an old, working or repairable product for something newly produced we add a new layer of pollution, no matter what the infinite growth marketing crew wants you to believe.
- Emoba ( @Emoba@discuss.tchncs.de ) English1•1 year ago
I know. But older, broken cars are replaced. What is your suggestion for these? Why should any new cars that replace old ones still be running on fossil fuels? I’m not arguing that we should wreck all existing cars immediately, I’m arguing that those who are produced and bought anyway should be battery electric.
- joolez ( @joolez@discuss.tchncs.de ) English1•1 year ago