Boring is good. I don’t want to be surprised by the software I use.
Zsh is a nice balance of modern features and backwards compatibility with bash.
A lot of folks don’t know that you can do this. They just stick with the default install for whatever distro they’re using. Articles like this aren’t really for seasoned users, they’re for relative newbies who didn’t know.
- java ( @java@beehaw.org ) 1•7 months ago
I don’t think that relative newbies get bored with bash.
It’s not getting bored with bash. Newbies don’t always know that there’s a whole world of software out there for the installation. If you can do that with a shell, what other shells are out there? What other software is out there?
Little things can introduce people to whole new worlds.
Such articles are bad for giving relative newbies the impression that software shouldn’t be boring.
The article just describes the how, but gives no reasons for a why.
So, why would anyone move away from the de-facto standard bash, except for some rare circumstances like having a small system and using busybox?
You probably never used fish shell.
Fish is actually user friendly and easy to learn. The interactive completions are better than any other shell and are something I don’t want to live without.
It differs from bash in some esoteric ways, but any issues you might encounter as a result are easily worked around by putting shebangs in your scrips, which you should be doing anyway, and
bash -c 'your command'.Honorable mention for
nushell, but that one differs from bash a little too much to pick up quickly. However, having an object-oriented shell is pretty sick.
Because you’re bored. It says so right in the title.
Personally I don’t see the point of changing the shell either. Bash is more than good enough for my use and any other shell is going to have the disadvantage of not being the ubiquitous standard so it is always going to have an uphill battle to dislodge bash.
That said, if people want to play around with a new shell just for the sake of it, why not? I like to play around with exotic window managers myself, not because my regular plasma desktop doesn’t suffice, but because I like to try something different every now and then.
Bored with driving your car with a wheel and pedals? Change the default handling device in your vehicle
Ive been using zsh for most of my linux time cause it is trendy.
Im actually planning a move to bash. All else being equal, i prefer gpl-style to mit-style. (Tried fish didnt like it.)
Dyk the “monopoly man” illustration was created by the grandparent of the original developer of bash? And was uncredited by the company who owns Monopoly until a relative publicized this recently.
I am in the process of learning about/choosing shells for my new setup. Can you please elaborate on gpl-vs-mit style - what do you mean? Is it just about licences?
yes it is just about the license. i think gpl is better for humanity.
i don’t have a better argument than that. i guess i am just turning into that kind of person lol
More importantly: did you know the “monopoly man” does not in fact wear a monocle? We live in trying times.
Nice. But I want to change the default terminal in gnome but gnome-files doesn’t respect my choice. …
This might be right up your alley.
- java ( @java@beehaw.org ) 2•7 months ago
Shell is not there to entertain me. But each to their own.
i use nushell