• You need to pay attention to who is saying what. I don’t know that Bernie Sanders has ever said “let’s bomb the Middle East” and at the same time I don’t think Mitt Romney is on the same level as MAGA hats.

    • I get your point, but it’s important to remember that the “acceptable” republicans have very little actual disagreements with the MAGA crowd. The real difference is found in messaging, that’s it.

      •  Kalkaline   ( @Kalkaline@lemmy.one ) 
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        111 months ago

        I mean, I’d never vote Republican again after the shit show of a Supreme Court they’ve put together, but there are some Republicans that have stayed fairly center of the aisle but still allow MAGA/teaparty policies to go through.

    • Yeah its pretty rediculous. Usually because the democrats don’t end the wars instantly when they get into office they put them as being part of it and of course when they do end them they point to all the issues with pullout being because they are somehow incompetent. you know rather than blaming being in the war in the first place.

      •  chadac   ( @chadac@beehaw.org ) 
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        111 months ago

        The main reason is that both Democrats simply inherited a deal for withdrawal before a Democrat became President. For the Afghanistan war in particular, around 80% of troops had already withdrawn by the time Biden was inaugurated. Republicans and Democrats seem to get this confused – many of the issues with withdrawals were due to Republican predecessors negotiating the deal (especially in regard to Trump), and the successor rarely had the power to significantly change the terms of those withdrawals. In Biden’s case, he really did have no choice – returning troops to Afghanistan at the original number would have been tantamount to re-invasion.

        I don’t really see a difference in parties when it comes to war. Entering/leaving wars seems to be more motivated by approval numbers rather than some party policy. In the meantime, both sides have been fine with creating their war crime detention facilities or drone striking civilians when we aren’t paying attention.