Washington Post: Americans waste $10 billion each year on name-brand ink. So we tested low-cost options including remanufactured cartridges, ink injection kits — and even making our own.

My advice: get a mono laser printer. Printing is handy but relatively infrequent for a lot of people these days. If that’s your use case, mono laser is the way to go. Toner does not dry out or go bad.

  •  Lucien   ( @lucien@beehaw.org ) 
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    2 years ago

    I use my HP printer infrequently enough that every time I booted up my inkjet, I had to put it through a printer head cleaning cycle. I’d be surprised if I got more than 20 sheets of paper for each cartridge do to the wasted ink, and the dang thing malfunctioned frequently even after cleaning (streaks, blots, complaining about missing colors when printing b/w, etc).

    After switching to a Brother mono laser, I haven’t had to do any maintenance in 3 years and it’s still on the original toner cart which it came with.

    This is the way.

  •  kensand   ( @kensand@lemmy.kensand.net ) 
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    I love my mono laser printer. It’s an older Canon I got from a retired lawyer, so it has probably printed a million pages already for all I know. Haven’t had to futz with it since I popped in a new toner cartridge that was ~$40. If I need to print color, I go to the local copy store, but that’s rare anyways. Been recommending the same for all my friends and family.

    •  tr00st   ( @tr00st@lemmy.tr00st.co.uk ) 
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      Glad someone made this point. My next printer will definitely be a tank printer. It’s basically flipping the business proposal back to “pay for the printer up front” instead of “pay for the printer whenever you buy ink”. My current printer was cheap enough that I basically spend enough on ink to buy a new printer every few years, given degradation of cartridges when they’re left after opening.

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      Some of you should try

      I think by “some of you” you mean “heavy printer users”, and if so I agree.

      The typical use case for most folks is infrequent (maybe print 100 pages 1 month and 1 page each month otherwise or less) and works when you want to use it.

      The two features you describe do add value, but are anti features when an in

      • lots of ink paying for more than you need
      • sometimes gets clogged
      • lots of ink paying for more than you need

        You pay less for an ink refil on an ink tank printer than you do a toner refil for a laser printer. This is despite the fact that the ink refil lasts longer.

        I agree with the idea that infrequent users should consider laser printers. The main issue I have with them though is the cost. A colour laser printer is more expensive than even a tank printer which is expensive to begin with. It also can’t do photos very well which is something a lot of people use printers for. Greyscale laser printers are only good for text.

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    I’ve got a Canon Pixima 5000 series. My family tends to print a good percentage in color (because thankfully I don’t have to print many documents in this day and age). It uses individual color cartridges (C, M, Y, K and a second large K), so if one goes out you just replace that color. I generally pick up the off brand refills on Amazon for fairly cheap. Last time I got a 5 pack of sets for $20. It’s lasted us 2 years at this point. The ink carts are literally JUST ink and a foam block. No electronics or drm like HP. Highly recommend.

  •  frostycakes   ( @frostycakes@beehaw.org ) 
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    Another for the get a laser printer train, I got a Xerox color laser printer 8 years ago for a ridiculously good deal (like $130). I finally had to replace the original toner last year, and it took my off brand cartridges just fine at a cost of like $50 for the full set of four. Came with Linux drivers even! Having color is nice too, means I don’t have to think about using another printer. We keep my boyfriend’s inkjet printer around solely for scanning things at this point.

    •  MDKAOD   ( @MDKAOD@beehaw.org ) 
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      2 years ago

      Commercial printer here! There’s some validity here, but health risks for at-home printing would be minimal in my opinion unless someone is printing a lot. Toner machines tend to release ozone from the corona wires that are used to charge the drums.

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        Toner machines tend to release ozone from the corona wires that are used to charge the drums.

        I’m doing my part to plug that hole in the ozone layer!

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        2 years ago

        There is a safety concern that you shouldn’t clean anything involving toner with ammonia-based products (window cleaners, etc.) It reacts with the plastic in the toner. Isopropyl alcohol can be mixed with a smaller ratio of water to use as a cleaner. I do agree with the original message and always recommend people buy laser over inkjet for most tasks.

  • I bought a Brother color laser printer in 2020 after deciding I was fed up with buying ink cartridges. The Staples guy was annoyed I wasn’t buying toner cartridges also. He said “These starter cartridges don’t have much toner. You’ll need a new one before you know it!”. I told him I’d take my chances and come back if needed. Three years later, I print regularly and haven’t replaced anything at all yet. I would have bought a number of ink cartridges over the last few years. Great investment as far as I’m concerned.

  •  Melody Fwygon   ( @Melody@lemmy.one ) 
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    As a former tech associate at Staples; I can easily attest to how annoyed my bosses were that I always pushed people to buy laser printers.

    Their reasoning was simple; the bosses hated the volume at which we sold toner; and literally nothing else…once I had paired all of their problem customers with drama-free laser printers that would stay in operation for at least 5 years.

    Nobody who bothered to ask my professional opinion on printers and actually took it seriously bought anything but a Laser Printer. Many of the shitty DRM riddled Inkjets actually collected dust on those shelves unless they were sold by someone more clueless than I.

  •  Papamousse   ( @Frederic@beehaw.org ) 
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    Absolutely, I got inkjet printers for years between ~1990 and ~2010, ink is expensive, dry, smear, etc. I bought a Samsung color laser wifi printer in 2012, more than 10 years ago, I changed toners a few times, it still work perfectly fine. I’ll never again go to inkjet.

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    Maybe I’m naive, but what’s holding everyone back from living a paperless life or at least attempt to? Other than printing out the occasional return labels for Amazon stuff I return (they offer label free drop offs now), I can’t think of anything else I would use it for as most things have gone digital.

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      Signatures, people not wanting to rely on phones, paper requires essentially only literacy while phones require more, more privacy with paper, honestly the list is pretty long.

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      I get wanting to go paper free, but I like to have paper copies of important docs in my file cabinet.

      Also i have an eight year old, so its fun to be able to print out papercrafts, patterns, exercises etc … having a printer is a good thing to have for a kid.

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      Student here, journal articles are a lot easier to read on paper than on screen. After the first hour or so of screen reading my eyes get drier than the Sahara and I feel dizzy. I tried reading on my e-reader, but journals like to cram as much text on a page as possible, which doesn’t work well on a 6" reader.

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        It’s been a while since I’ve used an e-reader, but don’t they let you change the font size? It’s kind of like zooming in, but actually readjusts the words to fit the screen. Again, I might be making this up.

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          No, you’re right! But it’s only possible for epub/mobi and txt files.

          Pdfs can be zoomed into, but then you need to scroll around the page and it starts feeling rather like you’re looking at the paper through a keyhole. I tried converting pdf to epub, but the formatting/page layout of the original matters and it doesn’t translate well.

    •  ydant   ( @ydant@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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      Kids in school was the primary reason for a printer, but the need has definitely decreased over the years. Our family is at about 5 prints per year at this point, which is exactly why a laser printer is so valuable. The same Brother printer ($150 in 2012) has worked for us for going on 11 years now with minimal expense on replacement toner. It just works when needed and never dries up or has issues.

      But as much as you would like to be paperless, things come up. Some companies insist on wet signatures, other things need to be mailed in, etc. It’s certainly becoming less and less necessary year by year, though.

      I’m not sure if I would replace this printer if it fails, but it sure is nice to have around when I need it, without the hassle of going out to print something at a shop.