Fuck trucks. I remember the Ranger it was barely bigger than a minivan. These things are obscene. People who own them don’t need them. Most people don’t even need trucks. People like to cosplay that they live up a 25 degree incline of muddy, rocky road. But a subaru would be just fine and IS in most of the world.
I drive a B2300 (the Mazda rebrand of the Ranger) and it kicks ass. I get 7-8L per 100km, when commuting, I’ve filled it to the tits with dirt, flooring and lumber, and it doesn’t take up 2 parking spaces. I would pay an obscene amount to get the same truck but as an EV today. Why the fuck is that not a thing?!?
Best we can do is a behemoth truck that doesn’t fit in spots and costs a first born child.
The b23 was a great truck, though.
I recently bought a 2010 B4000 and it is a great size for a truck.
I used to have a ~'99 ranger. Loved that thing. Now the closest thing Ford has is the maverick which is not only bigger overall but it has a smaller bed so it’s less useful.
'10 B2300 driver. Why will no one make a real compact pickup instead of a movie theater with a 4 foot box?!?
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A 5.3L Sierra is listed as 14 to 18L/100km, my B2300 gets 7 to 8L/100km…
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Yeah, I filled up 45L yesterday with 550 on my trip odometer. It’s the 2wd with the small cab and a cover not a cap.
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I do appreciate Ford has the Maverick now as well.
My first car was a '92 Ranger and it was a great little thing to have at that point in my life. It’s really nice to be able to move without needing to worry about how to transport all your stuff to the new place and it was small enough that it still felt like a regular sized car.
The new rangers are pretty ridiculous in comparison.
I probably don’t represent most people very well. But my wife and I have a single vehicle, a gmc sierra 1500. We probably use the bed twice a week. Trash/recycling. Moving heavy things around our property. Makes for a great mobile workbench for projects outside. And most often of all, we buy hay and grain for horses. A smaller truck would be a problem for us. We would actually benefit from a larger truck! But I don’t want a bigger gas guzzler. We get great fuel efficiency given the size of the truck.
Edit: I also don’t live in a city. It’s quite rural here
Obviously not (yet?) available in the US but other countries have much smaller trucks with larger beds. https://www.kia.com/dm/showroom/K2700-2022/specification.html
That plus a 2200 lb hauling capacity make them a very capable, efficient, and reasonably safe truck.
Kinda funny how much the styles differ between USA and Europe 🙂. Looks like a great work truck. No space for a car seat in the back though so you would need a separate family vehicle. Which might be practical anyway!
This would satisfy my regular truck needs. But a 2200lb hauling capacity doesn’t work well with horses. A single horse can easily weighs 1200 pounds.
I could see this being great for many people here. But it’s also not a universal fit.
I saw a similar truck in the US the other day, a Honda Street/Acty. It was so cute!
won’t be. There’s federal legislation that basically says a vehicle has to be large to burn fuel like that, so you can’t make a small truck unless it makes small car mileage. The idea was that the auto manufacturers would improve mileage if forced, but you know how it usually goes when politicians try to direct engineers to make bullshit physics reality.
Do you run a farm? Meaning is your truck use for your business or job?
I consider it a hobby farm. We currently have 2 horses and 3 goats. But it’s not a business at all and doesn’t generate income.
? I’m sure you’re aware GM used the exact same gasoline motors in the half tons as it did in the 3500s. You can have pretty much the same gas mileage as the half ton as long as you make sure to find a 2500 or 3500 with the 3:73 or 4:10 rear axle ratio, not the 4:88 that shows up fairly often, but way more carrying capacity. If it’s throttle body era, the 3500s did have bigger injectors, just change them to the 1500 injectors.
I wasn’t aware but I’m also not surprised. I think there’s two things that give my truck decent fuel efficiency. First is it’s much lighter than a 2500 or 3500. Which means I can’t haul as much but oh well. Second is the feature where the engine only runs on 4 cylinders most of the time. I notice a big difference when it’s running all 8. This isn’t available on the larger trucks. Oh and I think mine has a 4:32 axel ratio but it’s been a while. If that’s the same engine, then the larger trucks should be able to run on 4 cylinders as well. Super lame if the just don’t enable it. Maybe it’s not effective with a heavier truck?
Oh ok. I had the initial impression your truck was a bit older, but yeah, no, you’re not significantly lighter, than the gas powered 2500s and 3500s. You are significantly lighter than a diesel quad cab 4x4, but only if your a regular cab 2wd gas job. Your ratio would probable be 3:43, 3:08, 3:23, something like that, you don’t get lower than 4:10 in a half ton generally, and even that’s rare. The cylinder shut off was annoying joke, they quit doing that for a reason, it’s really problematic and it takes the same amount of energy to move a certain vehicle a certain distance at a certain speed, regardless of 4 or 8 cylinders. Engines of different manufacture do use different amounts of fuel to do the same thing, not denying that. GM set up a scenario where you could see in real time if the exact same specced vehicle would get better mileage with four or 8 cylinders working. they didn’t. I bet you get around 17-19 mpg, which is been the chevy v8 standard average milage for a roughly 5.5 liter v8 powered pickup with a rear end ratio somewhere around 3:40, since 1970. I know you do get better mileage than when the cylinders are fully activated, but, they only activate when they’re needed, so, its kinda more marketing than anything, you’d get good mileage all 8 activated and not working harder too. GM is famous for shit like this, their old 4 barrel carbs with the tiny primaries and massive secondaries just lead to the secondaries opening ALL THE TIME, which resulted in worse mileage than a big 2 barrel carb or a equal bore 4 barrel. nevermind they were at the same time putting 800 cfm carbs on motors did better with 500, raised vacuum is beneficial, because people saw “800 cfm” as “just like my drag racing heroes”. A significant part of corporate engineering is marketing driven. you never need bigger than 500 cfm unless you have an 8 liter ish motor exceeding 7000 rpm, or some sort of forced induction.
Interesting it’s just trucks that are the problem, and not SUVs as well. Just as large, hell some weigh more.
The spa-burban is a truck.
Is it a 6000lb monster on a truck frame and enjoying the worse/looser safety regs? Then Truck.
I’m clearly not just talking about Burbs. https://www.autoweek.com/news/a1720016/ranked-every-unibody-non-luxury-three-row-crossover/
They are part of the problem too.
They’re also literally a truck with a roof over the bed.
In the US, SUVs are considered “Light trucks” and the same regulations apply to them.
What is the point of a truck you cannot fit a 2x4 in the back?
Satiates societally ingrained Petro-Masculinity for patriarchal men who are insecure about their status as a man in the modern age.
Could have easily said “little dick syndrome”
Nahh that’s misandrist and body shaming. This definition is better.
“I said the same thing using different terms that make me feel clever and moral”
With how PC younger generations are I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not lol
I am not a younger generation and am not being sarcastic. Body shaming men is just generally accepted but it’s not okay to do that to anyone. There are plenty of other equally rude and more accurate ways to say someone is an insecure asshole. We should use them.
We are so different. Best of luck on your adventures.
Petro-masculinity is a brilliant term.
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Get some better examples if you want sympathy.
Off leash dogs are dumb, smoking is dumb and kills people, single use items are a huge waste of resources and source of pollution, leaf blowers are loud as fuck pollute like mad and generally pointless, and for a province that spends the majority of its time on fire outdoor fires tend to be a bad idea.
Fuck trucks
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I think most reasonable people don’t actually think there needs to be a full ban on these trucks. I do think that most people would agree that there needs to be some restriction/enforcement on where they can park. The picture at the top of the article is a good example, they don’t fit in lots of the angle parking spots right downtown. There are small car spots, there are micro car/motorcycle spots, maybe we need standard sized car spots. Big trucks can park in lots where they do fit or on the edge of downtown (I do that in my normal sized car if I can anyways because who wants to pay for parking?). As for your second to last point, no one’s going to drive 3+ hours from the north Island to Victoria to get groceries especially not in these trucks for $150+ of gas. No one would even drive from Saanich to get groceries in Victoria.
I do agree about the transit though, it’s insane that travelling from Nanaimo to Victoria takes an entire day by public transport and anything north of that is simply impossible.
Your view of all these problems is too myopic and binary to ever come to a reasonable conclusion on any of these topics.
These trucks are no longer than a 1978 Cadillac, wtf designed these parking spaces?
Lmao that is a wild point of reference, buddy.
It’s a way to demonstrate longer vehicles are nothing new, and still being driven besides. This is an urban planning failure being presented as otherwise.
People are still driving land yachts from the 70’s?
No, they’re driving modern urban assault vehicles though.
I use, for my business, a 1986 GMC 3500. It’s two wheel drive, manual, rust free due to maintenance and every bit as long as these “bro dozers” but apparently I shouldn’t be able to park at my suppliers. I was previously using a 8900lb gvw 2500, but I feel like Chevrolet overstated the load rating back then to avoid emissions or something, if you actually try put the 1.5 tons claimed in, the suspension is no longer suspension.
Well yeah. They run well and are quite comfortable, easy to work on. Most problems can be solved in a day without years of training.
Someone in the past thirty years?
I mean that sounds clever if you don’t think about when the vehicles being bitched about were designed.
Thanks Sagifurious, this person knows his trucks. But provides little to the conversation with their straw man fallacies, and troll like rebuttals.
A great example of a blockable account.
Look at this users profile, review their post contribution. Click the three dots to open the actions, and select block this user.
Blocking doesn’t happen instantly because of cached data in your browser, but it is very effective.
And that’s how we keep this space enjoyable to use.
Classic case of responding not to what is said, but who is saying it. In short…fuck off moron.
