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who the dick would want to see Threads posts
There are lots of people on there I would like to follow, but they wont be joining the fediverse and I don’t want to make a Threads account myself either.
Me. Are there any small instances that won’t defed?
get the block
…OK then? I don’t see any incentive to block me because I don’t think EEE can happen?
I assume that people with those attitudes “miss what Twitter used to be.”
Miss me with that shit, Twitter was always a shithole and Jack Dorsey was always a Nazi-protecting piece of shit.
Zuck and Meta ain’t no better.
Wow, both instances I’m on (Lemmy and Mastodon) blocking Threads. I’m proud of my admins!
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That is an awesome image. He’s into it.
i honestly don’t get the hate. i love the fact that i wont need two apps anymore to see the more mainstream people i used to follow on twitter. tje worst part about twitter going under is the fragmentation.
I understand you, but I specifically went to lemmy to not have any of that bullshit from Musk or Zuck or Spez. Facebook is a toxic dumpster fire(on purpose because money) Twitter is a toxic dumpster fire (because Musk is an asshole). Reddit is basically the same but the ceo is still an asshole. And I am sure that after a few years threads will follow this trend soon.
true but you wouldn’t be interacting with it unless you follow specific users or go into the global timeline
idk there are a handful of Reddit communities I miss, I would love to be able to follow them here, ad free, without a Reddit account.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish
It’s happened so many times, and every time people thought “this time it’s different”.
but that doesn’t really happen in a decentralized model.
https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html
That’s exactly what happens in a decentralized model.
Stop posting this unless you have an actual argument as to why it’s not just FUD. This dumbass blogpost has been debunked over and over and over again.
Google Talk didn’t kill XMPP.
XMPP didn’t have a significant user base, Google Talk did, so while Google Talk supported XMPP, other open source XMPP clients got to ride their coattails and interact with a huge community and it felt like XMPP was thriving, when in reality Google Talk was what users cared about, not whether or not it connected to the rest of the minor XMPP networks, so when Google Talk decided to stop using XMPP, their users didn’t care or switch and XMPP died.
But that’s fundamentally not because Google killed it, it’s because Google was the only thing keeping it alive.
the internet/web itself is a decentralized model and yet think of how often you see a website that “only works/works best on Google Chrome”
That’s because developers making websites don’t want to bother to test their thousands of lines of application code on a bunch of different browsers… is your argument that Threads will join the fediverse and then people arent going to test whether their 150 characters of text will work with Lemmy before posting and then all us Lemmy user’s are going to quit because it’s simply too much for Lemmy to render 150 characters of text and maybe an image?
there are very few sites that work on chromium but not on gecko or webkit, though.
Try setting up a personal email server in 2024 and tell me afterwards how fun the experience was
You don’t need two apps even if your instance defederates
I should probably migrate my mastodon.social account, even though I barely use Mastodon. Any recommendations for cool servers with cool people?
i see a lot of fun over at wetdry.world
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The fedi civil war
How would that prevent Meta from doing the bad things?
They’re welcome to enshittify their own corner of the Internet, like everyone else, but we won’t have to see it.
I don’t think there’s a good reason to avoid threads so long as it contains good and interesting users, and isn’t making huge demands from your users.
the “huge demand from your users” will immediately be having to deal with meta’s attrocious history with moderation and user safety being repeated.
honestly my threads feed is pretty good and i havent noticed too many issues with the things that plagued twitter. the trans community is pretty big on threads too which is nice.
I wonder if you can whitelist certain users, rather than the entire server
am already escape facebook
Ok obviously no zuck, but that image do be kinda hot like yes make me lick your boots zaddy 🥵
I don’t need any sort of isolationism pushed on me. I wouldn’t sign up for an email provider that blocks GMail because “we’re not corpo bootlickers”, or a phone provider that only lets me call the coolest fellow comrades. If an instance wants to be its own little island with its own ideology, I’m cool with that, but it’s not for me - I’m looking for an instance that behaves more like an un-opinionated public utility.
I see your point but I think you might not know all the reasons for defederation. There is nothing wrong with wanting to interact with people on other platforms of course.
However, Meta is a huge company and it is not in Meta’s interest to have an open fediverse with many diverse platforms. Platforms like instagram are notoriously predatory walled gardens. They grow until there is tons of people on them and they have a quasi-monopoly, then they crank up ads, force people to make an account and/or download an app to see content. Their content cannot be seen from elsewhere.
If their services have been closed off in walled gardens until now, why would they suddenly shift and want to support ActivityPub? Mastodon is big but not big enough that people feel they are missing out by being on other platforms. I doubt they expect to attract significantly more users that way. They want to create a way to become part of the fediverse through their platform. Given the sheer amount of money Meta has, they will then make Threads the most bestest and easiest way to do microblogging on the fediverse. Find a mastodon instance? ugh what a hassle, just join Threads. Then they can start adding features that mastodon and firefish don’t have. People will switch to threads for these features, and voila, the age old strategy of embrace-extend-extinguish is done.
Even if we assume that is not their motive, the fediverse is about open, democratic and collaborative social media. Those values are directly opposed by Meta’s entire business model (and their business itself which is generating shareholder profits). Now if some small company was part of the fediverse who cares, but Meta is a huge behemoth and IMO we’re better off building a world without them, rather than inviting them into it to compete against largely volunteer-built software. Let’s learn from the past.
i think i’d 100% agree with you if: a) the fediverse wasn’t majority public facing b) meta’s past failures hadn’t impacted the material conditions and safety of real people
i get your comparisons to gmail and phone providers, but to me those two differences are fundamental. gmail is private, your phone is private, but social media is public and can be used to stir up massive misinformation campaigns, harrassment, or calls to violence.
on the same level, if any evidence that gmail or my phone provider had willingly participated in calls to violence which resulted in rape and murder, i also would want that institution to be excluded in order to guarantee the safety of my local instance’s members as well as to stop letting them profit from my existence on a federated platform.
these are the key differences that i am taking into account when i call for not federating with meta on a majority scale. what are your thoughts on them?
I think these are fair points. and I can’t say I blame anyone for wanting Meta/FB out of their life entirely. I see value in both options - the option of having maximum connectivity to others, and the option of having only parties that are considered to be in good ethical standing. And I’m glad the fediverse can offer both options to everyone. For me personally, having communications cut between users based on who is hosting their instance is a last resort.
is have no more backbone than chocolate eclair
I’m apparently of the minority opinion that the user should be allowed to choose what instances to block
Meta is trying to extinguish (part of) the fediverse. If a user wants to participate in that, they are not welcome on my server in the first place.
I disagree, so we shall battle to the death by making passive aggressive blog posts to each other
There is no other way. may the weakest man lose 🫡 (women and non-binary people always win)
Ignoring the context, this image is quite hot. I hope there were no actual Nazis involved.
Bootlicking is cool. I always say I’m into the good kind of bootlicking, since it depends on whose boot it is. Not into licking the boot of someone who would want my rights taken away though, that’s cringe.
