- ironcrotch ( @ironcrotch@aussie.zone ) English77•9 months ago
My god it’s all strings.
- Strawberry ( @Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 8•9 months ago
not uncommon for data to be displayed on UI
- M0oP0o ( @M0oP0o@mander.xyz ) 70•9 months ago
This is a pinetime it looks like.
You should get one, open source and $30.
- haui ( @haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com ) 8•9 months ago
Thanks for posting! I was looking at the pinephone esrlier but this would be an even better tinker device for me atm!
- M0oP0o ( @M0oP0o@mander.xyz ) 5•9 months ago
The pinephone is not really usable now. The pinetime is awesome though.
- haui ( @haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com ) 4•9 months ago
Interesting! I have read that its not capable of a daily driver at this point which isnt such a surprise given the fact that even the fairphone is 500+ $/€. Smartphones are more like computers than phones i guess.
What was your experience with the pinetime? If you want to share I mean.
- M0oP0o ( @M0oP0o@mander.xyz ) 6•9 months ago
I use the pinetime as my daily watch now. I got it so I could control my audio book in my helmet while on my motorcycle but it has proven great all around. I use LineageOS on my phone and the pinetime was super easy to set up and use with gadgetbridge. No bullshit, no bloat, and as far as I can see no spying.
- averyminya ( @averyminya@beehaw.org ) 2•9 months ago
@Schorch@feddit.de do either of you have any particular comparison between the two watches? And maybe how portable the apps can be for each other? For example writing something for the PineTime and porting it to the bangle js2 or vice versa?
I only ask because the former is so cheap and the latter is currently nigh quadruple the price. But my partner and both have been looking for a good smart watch that has the basics from what you want with one but without it being $150 to Samsung and bloated down. And while I’m not a programmer I’m nearly happy enough with the offerings I see on the websites. I do have a couple Pi projects and a home server that I go back and forth on. When I get the motivation I don’t usually have any issues and it’s at least in a usable state by the end, even if it’s not perfect.
Thanks for any input!
- InFerNo ( @InFerNo@lemmy.ml ) 4•9 months ago
The pinetime does not have many apps and you can’t simply install any. I think you have to alter Infinitime to implement the app, then deploy infinitime (with app included).
Idk who downvoted this but that’s literally what the github page says you need to do.
- averyminya ( @averyminya@beehaw.org ) 1•9 months ago
Ah thanks, I was just reading what was listed for each on their website, I didn’t even think to check the git for them.
- haui ( @haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com ) 1•9 months ago
Sounds great! I‘m using a legacy apple device (sigh) so I‘m not sure my phone will do a lot with it. Do you know what it can do on its own? Tell the time probably. It says you can use it with a pc as well. Turning on lights at home would be great. I could also see reverse engineering the key fob of my old bmw and using it as a key replacement. ;)
- M0oP0o ( @M0oP0o@mander.xyz ) 1•9 months ago
There is a lot of stuff people mess with, but with all linux people only some of it is useful or works. Can you side load on old apple stuff?
- haui ( @haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com ) 1•9 months ago
Its not jailbroken so no, I cant sideload yet. But the EU is currently trying to force apple to allow sideloading. Should be any minute now! :)
I know about linux stuff. Running a daily driver for half a year now and a couple servers for a couple years. The apple thing is just one I bought before all that so I will use it until it breaks. I develop some low effort apps for my linux desktop so the watch should be cool for me.
The dev kit thing scares me a bit though. Says the assembled watch is not for development?
- InFerNo ( @InFerNo@lemmy.ml ) 3•9 months ago
I tinker more with my pinephone than my pinetime, which is basically “waiting for an update and then applying it”. Out of the 2 the Pinetime is the one I use, the Pinephone is currently substituting as a pihole because I broke the Odroid C1.
There’s a lot more to do and play with on the phone compared to the watch, but the watch is reliable to use daily.
- haui ( @haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com ) 2•9 months ago
Thanks a lot for elaborating. What is an Odroid C1?
- InFerNo ( @InFerNo@lemmy.ml ) 3•9 months ago
It’s a raspberry pi clone so to speak, made by hardkernel. Their latest C board is the C4, pretty happy about em. Running Arch Linux for browsing and light gaming.
- haui ( @haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com ) 2•9 months ago
That sounds pretty awesome!
- jherazob ( @jherazob@beehaw.org ) English7•9 months ago
Gave a quick check, and it costs more than twice the price to buy it in EU, everything from Pine64, for some reason, odd, will look at this in more detail later at some point in case i missed something because the idea of an open, not locked, not tracking your every move smartwatch is appealing, but that doubling the price thing is a minus.
- M0oP0o ( @M0oP0o@mander.xyz ) 3•9 months ago
Yeah I had a similar experience getting mine shipped to Canada, $30 but another $30ish for shipping. I hope one day they are available easier and everywhere.
- ☭ SaltyIceteaMaker ☭ ( @SaltyIceteaMaker@iusearchlinux.fyi ) 4•9 months ago
I bought one and wqs quite happy with it until it just randomly got stuck in a bootloop and no amount of resetting or letting it drain helped
- InFerNo ( @InFerNo@lemmy.ml ) 3•9 months ago
If it’s been in the drawer for all this time, charge it again, it will ptobably boot. I had a similar issue, but didn’t let the thing shut down conpletely (by making sure the battery is completely drained).
- ☭ SaltyIceteaMaker ☭ ( @SaltyIceteaMaker@iusearchlinux.fyi ) 1•9 months ago
I already tried it after multiple months (i had to charhe it to boot at all) but it didn’t work… I will prob. Try again later
- mortrek ( @mortrek@lemmy.ml ) English3•9 months ago
What Android software could you use for managing it? Gadgetbridge seems to not have fully-developed support for it, even with their preferred firmware.
I’m using Gadgetbridge with a hacked Amazfit Bip and I’m pretty happy. I like the multicolor TFT LCD w/no default backlight on the Bip, which is very readable in bright light and only requires a quick button press to get the backlight on in the dark, or you can waste more battery life and have it turn on when you turn it towards yourself. It’s also got built-in GPS/workout tracking (you have to manually flash the A-GPS data occasionally…), the ability to load little open source apps, sleep tracking, heart rate tracking, notifications, custom watchfaces, etc which I’m sure the Pinetime has most of. The battery also lasts ages since it uses such a low-power LCD.
I’m not saying the Pinetime isn’t good, but decent alternatives exist. I would love a truly open-source smart watch, but maybe when the project is slightly more mature. I guess I could always get one and contribute to it… $30 is really not much. I’ll definitely try it if my Bip breaks.
- M0oP0o ( @M0oP0o@mander.xyz ) 1•9 months ago
I have found nothing that worked, was not spying on you, was not some hipster pipedream, and has lots of people working on it. Oh and gadgetbridge seems to work good, what do you mean not supported?
- mortrek ( @mortrek@lemmy.ml ) English2•9 months ago
Also the Bip cannot spy on you unless you install the official app. It’s limited to its interactions with apps over bluetooth, and I just use Gadgetbridge.
- M0oP0o ( @M0oP0o@mander.xyz ) 1•9 months ago
Glad you worked around the spying. I just wanted to give my money to a company that did not start by spying on me.
- mortrek ( @mortrek@lemmy.ml ) English1•9 months ago
According to the wiki, only one firmware is supported, and it’s early support with missing features. The wiki may be outdated, though.
- M0oP0o ( @M0oP0o@mander.xyz ) 1•9 months ago
Yeah, I have updated my firmware and its just fine. Like a lot of this type of development there is not great oversight or up to date documents.
- smeg ( @smeg@feddit.uk ) English2•9 months ago
First I’ve heard of it, is it a worthy successor to the Pebble?
- Schorsch ( @Schorsch@feddit.de ) 2•9 months ago
If you want a successor to the Pebble, also consider Bangle.js 2. It’s a little more expensive compared with the PineTime but I got one and I’m very happy!
- smeg ( @smeg@feddit.uk ) English2•9 months ago
Ultimately the Pebble is still working fine though I know it will pack in eventually. All I need is something I can use to read notifications and control music, always-listening health stuff and fancy battery-depleting screens are a negative!
- M0oP0o ( @M0oP0o@mander.xyz ) 2•9 months ago
Never owned a Pebble, But I think as they still make the pinetime it bodes well.
- CaptnNMorgan ( @CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com ) 2•9 months ago
What is a good OS for a dummy?
- Jears ( @jeremias@social.jears.at ) 7•9 months ago
IIRC it comes with a firmware called InfiniTime preinstalled. So I guess that one.
- CaptnNMorgan ( @CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com ) 2•9 months ago
What about for a dummy that wants to feel smart by installing a custom one?
- InFerNo ( @InFerNo@lemmy.ml ) 6•9 months ago
The latest version of infinitime. The update process will make you feel smart.
- CaptnNMorgan ( @CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com ) 3•9 months ago
Hell yeah
- Xerø ( @Xero@infosec.pub ) 1•9 months ago
Thanks for the heads up!
- makuus ( @makuus@pawb.social ) 49•9 months ago
That’s something I think I’d like to use, but I don’t know if could get over the fact that neither the date nor the time are in ISO 8601 format.
- Daxtron2 ( @Daxtron2@startrek.website ) 38•9 months ago
Everything’s a string 😢
- lseif ( @lseif@sopuli.xyz ) 4•9 months ago
Everythings an object 😰
- Daxtron2 ( @Daxtron2@startrek.website ) 1•9 months ago
lua tables all the way down
- NegativeLookBehind ( @NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social ) 36•9 months ago
I prefer YAML please
- verstra ( @verstra@programming.dev ) 51•9 months ago
Please, dont joke with things like this. Someone might take you seriously…
- NegativeLookBehind ( @NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social ) 28•9 months ago
XML it is!
- space ( @space@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 12•9 months ago
Let’s go back to binary blobs. Everything being xml and json is boring.
- lseif ( @lseif@sopuli.xyz ) 2•9 months ago
who needs backwards compatibility anyway?
- lseif ( @lseif@sopuli.xyz ) 2•9 months ago
no but binary formats are really cool when applicable
- interolivary ( @interolivary@beehaw.org ) 1•9 months ago
XML has a bad rap because people went a bit (ok a lot) overboard with it in the early years, pretty much like what happens with a lot of other technologies, but as far as structured and human-readable data formats with good schema and tooling support go, it’s pretty much unbeatable. Now that JSON is the New Good Tech and XML is the Old Bad Tech, too many developers use JSON where XML would absolutely make more sense, and then we end up with unholy abominations like Portable Text, which is JSON pretending to be XML, and is so incredibly verbose and monumentally stupid that it feels like some sort of joke esolang data format rather than something being used in a production system. But no, here we are, god is dead and JSON is XML.
XML is terrific for building eg. structured markup languages with more complex markup than what something like Markdown can provide, and have the resulting files be comparatively readable, at least in comparison to the JSON-based alternatives – compare HTML to Portable Text, for example. XML has such a bad reputation – partially deservedly – that people just automatically assume it’s not a valid tool for anything modern, even when the modern “NoSQL”, “structured and typed data is for nerds, suck it” JSON solution is a giant pile of shit compared to the XML alternative
- m12421k ( @m12421k@iusearchlinux.fyi ) 27•9 months ago
here you dropped your whitespace 🤏
- XTL ( @XTL@sopuli.xyz ) 3•9 months ago
Sexpr master race!
- Cwilliams ( @Cwilliams@beehaw.org ) 18•9 months ago
If only fitness apis were actually that easy
- AnActOfCreation ( @AnActOfCreation@programming.dev ) 8•9 months ago
Here’s one for Wear OS / Pixel Watch.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.watchfacestudio.az261jsoncodewatchface
EDIT: And a terminal one.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.watchfacestudio.awfterminal
- some_guy ( @some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ) 7•9 months ago
You’ve got the hour hand and the minute hand… they’re right there. What’s wrong? /s
- SomeBoyo ( @SomeBoyo@feddit.de ) 3•9 months ago
This is great
- somegeek ( @somegeek@programming.dev ) 1•9 months ago
Duude this is so cool. Is there a watch like this for galaxy watch?