I’ve been distrohopping for a while now, and eventually I landed on Arch. Part of the reason I have stuck with it is I think I had a balanced introduction, since I was exposed to both praise and criticism. We often discuss our favorite distros, but I think it’s equally important to talk about the ones that didn’t quite hit the mark for us because it can be very helpful.
So, I’d like to ask: What is your least favorite Linux distribution and why? Please remember, this is not about bashing or belittling any specific distribution. The aim is to have a constructive discussion where we can learn about each other’s experiences.
My personal least favorite is probably Manjaro.
Consider:
- What specific features/lack thereof made it less appealing?
- Did you face any specific challenges?
- How was your experience with the community?
- If given a chance, what improvements would you suggest?
Daniel Quinn ( @danielquinn@lemmy.ca ) English56•1 year agoUbuntu. They’ve managed the worst of both worlds: like Debian, everything is old (though admittedly not as old), but unlike Debian, everything is broken/buggy/flakey. It’s the old-and-busted distro that I’m routinely told is “the only Linux we support”.
astraeus ( @astraeus@programming.dev ) 17•1 year agoIf Debian is not great as a desktop distro, it’s at the very least remarkably stable as a server distro. The sentiment extends somewhat to Ubuntu LTS. It could be better, but in terms of uptime and just working I can’t fault either distro.
ursakhiin ( @ursakhiin@beehaw.org ) 12•1 year agoI just now discovered why people are hating on Ubuntu pro by receiving a note that Ubuntu will not provide security updates for some apps it came with unless you activate Pro.
I think I’m done with Ubuntu on any personal machines.
astraeus ( @astraeus@programming.dev ) 2•1 year agoYeah I didn’t offer much input on personal devices because I did use Ubuntu for awhile as a personal environment and it’s fine, but could use work. I think personally I like Debian better, but if I want a clean GNOME experience Fedora is probably the move.
umbrella ( @umbrella@lemmy.ml ) 3•1 year agoI don’t have many issues on Ubuntu like you imply. It’s the reason why I stick with it despite snaps.
muix ( @muix@lemmy.sdf.org ) 30•1 year agoAnything Red Hat. Screw GPL corporatism.
wigit ( @wigit@infosec.pub ) 5•1 year agoHad to scroll way too far for this.
people_are_cute ( @people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org ) 4•1 year agoHey, they at least prioritise contributing upstream. Canonical is much worse.
ɐɥO ( @Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz ) 23•1 year agoManjaro. Its just Arch but worse
Random Dent ( @CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml ) 7•1 year agoYeah I was gonna say Manjaro too. I used it for a while while I was heading towards Arch but wasn’t feeling fully confident to go full Arch as a daily driver yet, and it was nothing but trouble for me. I found that it tried to prevent me from breaking things, which is not necessarily bad, but it would also break things by itself and then this feature would prevent me from going in and fixing them.
I much prefer it when the OS just gets out of my way and lets me do what I want, even if it’s dumb lol
someonesmall ( @someonesmall@lemmy.ml ) 1•1 year agoI’m using Manjaro daily for +5 years and had one or two package conflicts, never any boot problems. I don’t understand where all the Manjaro hate is coming from…
vortexal ( @vortexal@lemmy.ml ) 19•1 year agoI know it’s probably an odd choice, but ChromeOS. It has the potential to be not just a good starting point for new Linux users but also a distro that could allow Linux to be a lot more accessible to people who aren’t as technologically capable. The main problem is that, similar to android, Google prevents ChromeOS from being used as a proper Linux distro. Right now, it might be a good alternative to Windows and MacOS but as a Linux distro, it’s just not worth using. Especially considering that Linux already has some options available for running android apps, such as Waydroid, that work pretty well.
kib48 ( @kib48@lemm.ee ) English14•1 year agoI really think Google has no idea what it wants ChromeOS to be anymore, they’re just kinda shoving in shoddy solutions to its problems so they can say “hey we can do that too!”
soon they’re gonna introduce Steam and I look forward to that being a big shitshow lol
vortexal ( @vortexal@lemmy.ml ) 6•1 year agoHave they ever? ChromeOS’s original “app store” was just Chrome’s extension store. It’s been awhile since I’ve checked but Google doesn’t (or at least didn’t) officially support running android apps in ChromeOS Flex. Instead of focusing on getting more apps running on ChromeOS, they’re actively working on Google Play Games for Windows (which also hurts android). For which I think I saw that there are games that work in Google Play Games but they don’t work in ChromeOS for some reason. I’d imagine that there are a lot of other weird things but it’s been a while since I’ve actually used it.
It’s just one of those things where, ChromeOS has the potential to be a good competitor to Windows and MacOS (and maybe even a good Linux distro) but for some reason Google does nothing with it to make it worth using and actually seems to be actively harming it.
people_are_cute ( @people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org ) 5•1 year agoIt’s Pichai’s handiwork from what I understand. He was in charge of it before becoming CEO according to Wikipedia.
Joe_0237 ( @Joe_0237@lemmy.ml ) 16•1 year agoUbuntu: For shilling all kinds of profrietary garbage by default. If I wanted that I’d be on Windows.
Also the changes they make to GNOME make it worse, they take away what makes it good, the flow.
Hellmo_luciferrari ( @Hellmo_Luciferrari@lemm.ee ) 15•1 year agoUbuntu: It’s not a lack of features that pushed me away; it’s more about the way things are going. I am not a fan of snap packages. I have run into odd issues trying to use them. I used Ubuntu server for my Dell Poweredge and I shut it down until I can find a suitable replacement. I struggled with it respecting my DNS settings which in turn killed my reverse proxy setup.
Manjaro: While I love Arch and some of its derivatives, I can’t stand by Manjaro. I thought it would have been a good OS to use since I was familiar with Arch, but it had enough dependency issues where updates broke them. Funny enough, never have I had a dependency issue with just plain old Arch.
I use Arch btw. But besides the meme on it, I legitimately eo use arch and couldn’t be happier.
Random Dent ( @CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml ) 15•1 year agoSomeone already said Manjaro, so my second pick would be ElementaryOS. In the past they’ve had this weird attitude about open source things being free (I get supporting devs for projects you like of course, but I don’t agree that it’s “cheating” to not pay for every single piece of open source software you use), and they seem to get a lot of hype and praise for what’s essentially just Ubuntu painted up to look like MacOS IMO.
leopold ( @leopold@lemmy.kde.social ) English2•1 year agoI very much don’t care for ElementaryOS, but I really don’t think it’s fair to paint it as “Ubuntu painted up to look like MacOS”. It’s not just GNOME with some extensions. They made a whole desktop environment and suite of applications for their distro. That’s a ton of work. I think any distro that does that deserves some amount of respect.
ILikeBoobies ( @ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ) 2•1 year agoI always confuse it with Sugar
MiddledAgedGuy ( @MiddledAgedGuy@beehaw.org ) 15•1 year agoTL;DR: Ubuntu. Because I want choices.
Ubuntu. And I’ve felt that way for a long time, so it’s not something recentish like snaps.
I don’t want my distro to decide what DE and software I’m using for me. They used to have a minimal iso which gave you, as the name suggests, a very minimal install. But now their minimal image is meant for containerized stuff and if memory serves comes with some extra cruft for that purpose.
I got annoyed and I left. And every distro I’ve tried since, even if I didn’t stick with it, I liked better.
To add some constructiveness, as that’s just complaining. That can be a good thing, just depends on the user. If they want the crafted experience Ubuntu provides, then it’s a good pick. It’s just not for me.
shrugal ( @shrugal@lemm.ee ) 14•1 year agoFor me personally: Something like Arch. I want to spend as little time as possible on installation and configuration, and I don’t want to have to read update notes or break my system. But I get that it’s great for some people, and their wiki is just next level!
In general: Ubuntu. It feels like I read something about Canonical causing trouble every other week, and don’t even get me started on snaps!
Rozaŭtuno ( @Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 4•1 year agoCompletely agree on both points. Canonical always acts against the spirit of open-source whenever they get the chance.
And while Arch is great, I prefer things that work out of the box.
mikesailin ( @mikesailin@lemmy.ml ) 13•1 year agoNIXOS. It has a very steep learning curve without acceptable documentation and once I climbed the learning curve, I realized that it was very different from the Linux that I love.
fogetaboutit ( @fogetaboutit@programming.dev ) 1•1 year agoI hope you dont give up on it for too long, I think it’s a great OS once you get the hang of nix. To this day, its the only OS I trust where I could install anything I want and can still rollback without worries. Also I can make sure that my installation is the same as others, which means other people can literally just copy paste my config to test.
Snoopy ( @Snoopy@jlai.lu ) 13•1 year agoUnpopular opinion :
- Arch, i installed it long ago so i can’t remember anything except that i spent lot hours for its installation.
- Reason : spend a lot time reading the wiki without an easy installer…even Ubuntu was better but i wanted a challenge and a better uderstanding on linux.
- Some AUR package didn’t work.
- Why Arch ? To get the lastest os and package as i had a recent gaming laptop.
So I changed and prefered manjaro with its ui for linux os, graphic card…but some thing were broken…than i settled Pop-Os for 3 years and distrohopped again for immutable os : Vanilla OS and Fedora Kinoite. :)
Another distro :
- Ubuntu
- reason : snap and various decisions.
wuphysics87 ( @wuphysics87@lemmy.ml ) 3•1 year agoYou need to learn how bullets work, my friend.
Snoopy ( @Snoopy@jlai.lu ) 2•1 year agoBullets in markdown ?
* like this ? * or like that ?
wuphysics87 ( @wuphysics87@lemmy.ml ) 1•1 year agoAs in what does it mean to itemize. In this case to make an unordered list.
Snoopy ( @Snoopy@jlai.lu ) 2•1 year agoSorry, my english comprehension is rusty. It is an unordered list. I used it to improve readibility on phone and separate topics.
If the topic is mixed in a paragraphe i would have a harder time to quickly retrieve informations. Here you can read Arch and ubuntu and why in a single glance.
Rudee ( @Rudee@lemmy.ml ) 12•1 year agoNot a whole lot of experience distro-hopping here (went from Ubuntu to Endeavour and haven’t really changed since) but from what I know it seems like most distros have their place. Arch is highly customisable and all rolling release distros are good for gamers and those who need the latest software. Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, and other LTS distros are good for servers and newcomers (fewer big updates and therefore fewer potential crises)
For the sake of answering the question, I’d say Ubuntu is my least favourite. Its pretty bloated, and then there’s the whole snap fiasco
GnuLinuxDude ( @GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml ) 11•1 year agoI use Fedora as my primary desktop distro. It’s a sturdy base with relatively up-to-date packages from the repos. It doesn’t really push technology I consider undesirable, like Snaps. Even though I have to rely on RPMFusion for a number of proprietary parts, due to Fedora’s free software stance, I don’t have any particular qualms about that. I also increasingly use Flatpaks anyway.
When I used to use Reddit the /r/fedora community was helpful and welcoming.
One downside is because the kernel changes frequently, and I (sadly) own a Nvidia GPU, akmods runs very often. Another downside is sometimes that frequently changing kernel can cause issues. I think in the past year or two I’ve had two distinct occasions where a kernel upgrade caused my mounted shares to not mount correctly. Reporting an issue to upstream also takes quite some involvement, as I discovered when I had to create some Red Hat account to report an issue about the packaging of some software in a beta release of Fedora.
So all-in-all I would say Fedora is a strong distro. It is probably not the most beginner-friendly one, though, given how you have to dip your toes into RPMFusion and related challenges. It used to be worse, since DejaVu used to be the default font system-wide and you had to install a fonts package from COPR to make the system actually look pleasant. Since then they switched to Noto, which makes the font situation MUCH better.
On servers and VMs I use Debian because I do not have the patience to maintain a faster moving Fedora multiple times over. This is exacerbated by the awful defaults of Gnome, which I have to bend into shape with extensions. When Fedora 40 releases later this year I fully intend to reinstall from scratch since KDE Plasma 6 will be available.
edit: i misread the prompt and just talked about my favorite distro that i actively use. whoops.
My least favorite distro could be Manjaro if I actually used it, but it is Ubuntu because of how close it is to being a great distro. Snaps really soured me to that deal. Snapd and Snaps make it difficult to use in VMs, too, because now you have to over-commit resources for something that could and should be smaller and simpler. Debian stays winning, as usual.
BiggestBulb ( @BiggestBulb@kbin.run ) 9•1 year agoI really hate to say this, but Lubuntu.
I enjoyed it for a solid few months (it’s a lightweight
XFCELXQt version of Ubuntu, so it worked great on my very underpowered MacBook Pro from ages ago) so it was heartbreaking when one day, randomly, I couldn’t get past the login screen and my TimeShift backups didn’t work.If it wasn’t for this out-of-nowhere critical failure, I would say I loved it.
sawdustprophet ( @sawdustprophet@midwest.social ) English5•1 year agoI really hate to say this, but Lubuntu.
it’s a lightweight XFCE version of Ubuntu
Do you mean Lubuntu, or Xubuntu? Lubuntu uses LXQt.
BiggestBulb ( @BiggestBulb@kbin.run ) 4•1 year agoGood catch, sorry. Lubuntu, I just thought it used XFCE and not LXQt
Poik ( @Poik@pawb.social ) 8•1 year agoHannah Montana Linux. Do I have to explain?
Chadus_Maximus ( @Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee ) 6•1 year agoYes.
𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘 ( @01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ) English2•1 year agoIs it because it came in like a wrecking ball?