Gentle reminder to everyone that support for #windows10 ends in about 90 weeks. Many computers can’t upgrade to Win 11 so here are your options:
- Continue on Win 10 but with higher security risks.
- Buy new and expensive hardware that supports Win11.
- Try a beginner friendly #Linux distro like #linuxmint. It only takes about two months to acclimate.
I know people like to hate on windows here but come on: 90 weeks is another ~18 months. It’s near the end of 2025.
While absolutely true, what you’re saying, saying 90 weeks instead of any alternative (630 days!) Is just trying to make it sounds worse than it is to push an agenda.
90 weeks is more like 20 month and i could calculate that off of my head by knowing that a year has 52 weeks. I would have struggled more with days.
You could make this criticism about any date metric that it gets more or less easy to translate into a different metric.
Weeks are perfectly fine and most commonly used in the business context.
Your point about weeks is irrelevant, if OP wanted to be clear with the information they would have said the easiest term (about 2 years)
How is “about two years” more clear? about two years for me subjectively means everything between 20 and 28 month. Do you know how much time that is? about half a year. But for someone else it might mean 22 and 26 month. Or 18 and 30 month.
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I am using windows 10 on my tv pc so that’s all I cae about.
I missed the “90 weeks” bit - you made it sound like it was coming soon, you cheeky scamp.
Windows 10 will reach end of support on October 14, 2025. The current version, 22H2, will be the final version of Windows 10, and all editions will remain in support with monthly security update releases through that date.
Gives me these kinda vibes.
But…but…I was told W10 was the last OS I’d ever have to install!!
Edit: context
it’s gonna be “funny”: I won’t create a personal account to login to crap 11 (because why should I, if you can’t login to a desktop OS without a 3rd party account, that’s not an OS, but a gatekeeper shit), which is mandatory. So, my work machine will become unusable, therefore in fact Microsoft put my work therefore my livelihood in danger… [edit: typos]
It’s not mandatory to have an account to run win11. Press shift+f10 during the install to open a command prompt. Enter OOBE\BYPASSNRO into the prompt, system will reboot, disconnect the internet, when it prompts you for internet click “I don’t have internet”.
Easy peasy
Just this week I installed W11 on a laptop (temporarily, I just wanted to see how it ran on this hardware), and despite being connected to the it asked me, by default, for a username for the local account. I don’t know why, but it didn’t ask for a MS account first.
work machine
You do not need a Microsoft account to join a domain.
I understand you want people to switch to Linux but
- 90 weeks is far away. It drops in October 2025
- You’ll still get security updates for a few years
- After that there will be paid support which people will get around and find ways to install
- Windows 10 LTSC (best version of Windows IMO) still exists. The Enterprise LTSC version will have support till 2027 and the IoT version will have support till 2032. You can get them if you know how to look around
Plus, you can actually install Windows 11 on the same hardware as Windows 10 pretty easily. Microsoft just does not want you to.
All the more time for Valve to expand on Proton and push Linux compatibility, and for EA and the rest to get their thumbs out of their collective asses and support it at all
Its quite difficult to get legit LTSC licenses unless you’re a large org.
Last time I looked into it anyway. You can buy ltsc keys from third parties but AFAIK Microsoft will deactivate the license if they realize how you acquired it.
I’ll just leave this here for educational purposes https://massgrave.dev/ https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts
Yeah I wasn’t talking about getting it the legal way. They don’t care unless you’re a business.
I’m sorry, what?..Oh, all I heard was that my linux home server is going to be running on new hardware in about a year and a half when all these used computers go on sale. 😁
Anyone that still wants a supported version of win 10, look into Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC (2021) - supported until 2032 and can be activated by MAS with HWID
I’m a certified Microsoft hater, but man, 90 weeks? I get it, we want Gnu-Linux to be more streamlined, but his is certainly not the way. This is tech fearmongering.
Honestly, this isn’t really fearmongering. It’s just fact in this post and nothing is exaggerated.
Yeah. Did you know that Andromeda Galaxy will collide with Milky Way in 4.5 billion years? Gotta watch out for that one as well.
That likely won’t cause any problems because of the sheer volume of empty space between stars.
But anyways, disingenuous argument much? 2 years in the grand scheme of things is not a long time away.
You may be pretty heavily discounting the influence of gravity.
I do not think that risk of collision based on current trajectory is the only thing to consider.
I’m not an astronomer so I might be wrong, but wouldn’t the gravitational influence of stars from Andromeda in the Milky Way still be negligible, again because of much empty space there is?
Gravity is not just attraction to the closest thing but also the heaviest thing.
As the galaxies “pass” each other, all stars will be attracted to the dense cores of each galaxy. That is going to change the trajectory of individual stars and, as an aggravate effect, the overall shape and distribution. Unless the galaxies are aligned on the same angle, this is going to drag stars off the primary plane.
As the galaxies approach, the arms will stretch out to each other. As they pass through each other, the planes will tug on each other, and after they “exit”, the arms will reach back.
All this new motion will disrupt the natural shape and trajectory of the galaxy as a whole. Depending on the momentum, it could get pulled back and the whole process could happen again ( and again ) with greater disorder each time.
I’ve seen non-tech users in Linux many times. It doesn’t take them 2 months to acclimatise, at most 2 weeks but typically just 2 days. If there’s a blocker, there’s a blocker (like “my shitty bank requires some shitty software installed and they don’t support Linux”) but if there are no blockers it’s really quick. 95% of normal users just need a browser. The next 4% need LibreOffice. It’s only the last 1% that have some need that doesn’t sit in an office package or the browser.
We, the gamers, the geeks, the golems, WE have needs that may not be satisfied with Linux. But we are not normal users. So about 3% of us can be bothered to try and accept the missing software (and learn to love the new - God there are some apps I miss when in Windows), the remaining 97% either try and can’t accept the new habits required or don’t try.
But normal users?! Stick them in Mint Linux and show them where the browser is and they’ll be fine.
IMHO.
Normal users don’t even need a PC. Most of what they do can be handled on a phone or tablet.
We, the gamers, the geeks, the golems
What does ‘golem’ mean in this context?
I’m old. I’m low-end overweight. I don’t shave for days. I’ve been in tech for decades. I was describing myself and my ilk as golems.
Also, it just happened to alliterate with gamers and geeks.
I am curios too!
Further evidence for this is ChromeOS. It’s just a Linux distro, but worse. It does little more than run Chrome. Yet it’s popular. Anyone that tolerates ChromeOS would have an even better time on most of the standard distros if they had someone to set it up for them.
Once Windows 10 loses support I’m moving to XP for security
I was trying to make a Windows XP compatible app last month and my god is it ever difficult. Nothing works on XP anymore, so it’s insanely hard to test/develop software. All the legacy download links are dead too, so you can’t go install older versions of things either.
Windows XP was introduced 20 years after the sale of the first IBM PC in 1981.
It has one been 23 years since then!
Things certainly changed a lot more before than after.
I did this for React os
.NET 4.0 runs on XP and it is still very easy to create a .NET 4.0 application on a more modern machine. A well tested .NET app will deploy and run on Windows XP with few surprises. You cannot ask for better tooling. So, I would not say that creating new software for XP is really all that hard.
If you want to be much cooler but put in more work, check this out!
Friendly tutorial for those looking to swap to an easy-to-use modern distro!
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That sounds a hell lot more complicated than installing a linux distro like mint or ubuntu.
I have to explain to my aunt how to navigate to her external hard drive every time she plugs it in to see or save her pictures. That’s with autoplay. Asking her to click on a script I set up to mount it and click the shortcut to that mount point. No way, it would take 45 minutes on the phone every time. I’m telling her to buy the extended support, cause I’m not going through upgrading her computer again. As long as that malware riddled cesspool stays exactly the same she can use it. Some people are just very bad with technology.
I meant in the sense, that if you had to install a new OS on a device, doing a beginner friendly linux distro is easier than bypassing TPM requirements and then dealing with the fallout of that in Windows 11.
I trust you not to ask your aunt to install an OS by herself.
Linux gets awesome when you have at least a the bare simplest minimum of idea what your computer is doing, but when you see it as some kind of magic box it won’t protect you against yourself. I experienced this myself with a friend who wanted to try Linux, giving them as much help as I could, explaining everything down to even make them regular tutorials if they forgot anything…and nope, to my suprise they just never understood their pc even back when it was windows…and even with all my help, it just flew over their head. While doing some overdue maintenance on their machine I just realized they always ended up seriously harming their pc with bad habbits, regardless of the OS, Windows just took it better because of how dumbed down it is for tech iliterate people.
So yeah I completly get it xD
That is so misleading, when you can just disable the TPM 2.0 requirements with a single click in Rufus
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And then hardly anything will work, so whats the point ?
If your system doesn’t have a TPM chip, you can still emulate it in softtware, but then everything will run like molasses, so again basically poitnless.
I have installed Windows 11 on my old Thinkpad x230 and everything works as it should. You are just talking out of your ass
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Add forge plugin to your Gnome desktop and adjust it‘s settings 😉 it’s ducking awesome! And if you are already in your extension-manager, browse the top popular extensions, it is worth the time. No OS frontend is as nice as GNOME with the right extensions.
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Thank you for that list 😍 guess I have to check them out as soon as I am home
