- cross-posted to:
- ghazi@lemmy.blahaj.zone
- cross-posted to:
- ghazi@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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You can be both
I will never understand being so angry at a fictional work to a point that you feel justified in threatening and harassing the people who are part of it… And also their relative and loved ones!
Amazing but more usual that one might think, it’s the same anger you can see in people that identity themselves with some other fictions like religion, nationalism, football teams, ideology, race, etc. When watching a movie you kind of temporarily turn off your disbelief to experience joy, sadness, anxiety etc but when the movie is over the healthy behavior is the recognition that everything was an acting. But with the fictions that I just described somehow the disbelief is never turned on, the critical thinking is canceled.
This is really depressing, why go after an actor when the writing is at fault?
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No it’s because the quality of the story drops dramatically at the end
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The ending doesn’t make sense at all but ok. You do you.
Why does it not make sense?
I don’t care about abby and her physical appearance, my issue was purely the santa Barbara section. Had the game ended before that started it would have been fine. By then ellie was fine leaving abby alive as killing abbys friends had not helped her process the death of Joel. They just extended the story for no reason and it made it worse
I think different people have different reasons for disliking it.
For me it’s the writing. Specifically: the first half does it very best to make you hate a specific character, then the the second half has you play that character. I get what the writers were trying to do. The problem I have with it that is doesn’t make for a fun game. I don’t want to play a character I hate.
The writers were so intent on making a specific point that they forgot that they were making a video game. A video game is different from e.g. a movie in that the player is a part of the story, they take on the role of the character they are playing.
For this to work there has to be some part of the character the player can identify with. When playing Ellie, the player can identify with the rage she’s feeling. For Abby, there’s nothing to identify with. She’s mad that Joel killed her father but Joel was entirely justified in killing him. Her father was a bad person and deserved to die.
It makes it very hard for me to put myself in her shoes. As a result I just didn’t enjoy playing as her and quit the game after realizing that it wasn’t just a short section but the entire second half of the game.
It’s not like threatening the writers’ kids would have been reasonable either
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I wouldn’t expect logical thinking to be a strong characteristic in someone who’d threaten kids over a videogame.
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OK, so let’s assume that’s a good faith literal interpretation.
Let’s try it this way.
Yes, it possibly would be considered more logical, but people who threaten kids over videogames aren’t generally considered to be working with an abundance of logical thought.
I could however be wrong in this generalisation given I only have my experience to go on, if your experience leads you to believe people who threaten kids over videogames are not running with a logic deficit then your statement makes sense I suppose.
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So, not a good faith take then, oh well.
“Logical” is not a binary position. It’s a spectrum.
Agreed, not sure how it’s relevant but it seems we agree on something after all.
Consider the average person’s intelligence. Then realize half (or so) are stupider than that.
Because writing has no face, you can’t show writing how much you hate it, because it doesn’t change and has no feelings. Meanwhile an actor does. It’s just stupid emotional stuff.
Sounds reasonable. /s
