Amoeba_Girl ( @Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems ) English22•1 year agoeven Ayn Rand believed in love more than this
froztbyte ( @froztbyte@awful.systems ) English6•1 year agobrb calling the burn unit
gerikson ( @gerikson@awful.systems ) English17•1 year agoLooking forward to the conversation:
“Honey, I’ve met someone who fulfills the criteria we established when we started our relationship. They are 50% better than you”.
“OK, let me see… nope, I don’t agree, that person is at best 25% better than me. If you leave me for them, I am suing for breach of contract.”
jonhendry ( @jonhendry@awful.systems ) English8•1 year ago“If I can find a girlfriend who is 10% better every year, then in 7 years I’ll have a girlfriend who is twice as good as you.”
blakestacey ( @blakestacey@awful.systems ) English16•1 year ago“Honey, it’s time we had the conversation.”
“You mean, are we getting serious?”
“No.”
“The ‘is this going to be exclusive’ talk?”
“No.”
“The ‘do you ever want kids someday’ talk?”
“No.”
“Moving in together? Making plans to meet my parents?”
“No, I need to tell you that I would trade up if I found someone 37% better than you, and now you need to tell me your corresponding percentage.”
[a deadly silence falls]
bitofhope ( @bitofhope@awful.systems ) English16•1 year agooh hello there Performative Allistic Twitter
As if it wouldn’t have cost you $0 not to post this.
sc_griffith ( @sc_griffith@awful.systems ) English16•1 year agofirst an asteroid kills all the dinosaurs, now this? haven’t autistic people suffered enough?
bitofhope ( @bitofhope@awful.systems ) English8•1 year agoTo be fair allosauruses went extinct 80 million years earlier so who’s really oppressed?
sc_griffith ( @sc_griffith@awful.systems ) English10•1 year agoallisticsaurus, the dinosaur with no intense interests
Jonathan Hendry ( @jonhendry@iosdev.space ) 9•1 year agoI assume they were driven extinct by the homeosauruses.
EponymousBosh ( @EponymousBosh@beehaw.org ) English12•1 year agoI just got my Official Autism Diagnosis™️ and I think Yud’s post is gross as hell
Amoeba_Girl ( @Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems ) English7•1 year agolol same
Evinceo ( @Evinceo@awful.systems ) English10•1 year agoIsn’t he paying for Twitter now? He has the blue check. He could actually save money by not posting.
Soyweiser ( @Soyweiser@awful.systems ) English6•1 year agoim more amazed that he gave himself a square emoticon. It prob has some deeper meaning for him, but it makes ‘he is a square’ (who wants to nuke datacenters) a bit easy, and of course, it is also just a bad way of communicating things. Which is always a bit of a surprise, how bad the ‘we must teach you how to think’ people are bad at basic communication.
zogwarg ( @zogwarg@awful.systems ) English7•1 year agoI was really puzzled by it until I realized it’s supposed to be the “stop” button. ▶️⏸️⏹️
Now I am cringing at someone who would deliberately choose being so obtuse and cryptic.
TinyTimmyTokyo ( @TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems ) English15•1 year agoHappy Valentine’s Day everybody!
blakestacey ( @blakestacey@awful.systems ) English13•1 year agoQuoted for posterity/convenience:
in a world of greater legibility, romantic partners would have the conversation about “I’d trade up if I found somebody 10%/25%/125% better than you” in advance, and make sure they have common knowledge of the numbers
(Marriage makes sense as a promise not to do that period; but if so, you want to make sure that both partners are on the same page about that. Not everyone assumes that marriage means that.)
Her: I am never, ever letting you go unless I find someone 75% better. Me: Works for me.
oh hello there Performative Allistic Twitter
blakestacey ( @blakestacey@awful.systems ) English15•1 year agoOh look, a clarification:
It didn’t even occur to me that anyone would read the tweet as being about “25% more general market value” rather than “25% more value to me personally”. Who thinks like that??!?
Yud is just a uwu neuro-atypical smol bean who is ignorant of generations of cultural context about people rating each other and cannot be blamed for people reading his words in the wrong way instead of the correct, equally repellent way.
bitofhope ( @bitofhope@awful.systems ) English11•1 year agoOhh, I thought he meant one thing but actually he meant the same thing I thought he did and not the even worse thing I expected he might actually think instead.
Amoeba_Girl ( @Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems ) English6•1 year agoI think in this case, market value might have actually been better, in that at least it’s an objective value of something specific instead of reducing your whole relationship with another human being to a fucking variable.
blakestacey ( @blakestacey@awful.systems ) English9•1 year ago“Honest, babe, I’d only dump you for a ten-out-of-ten smokeshow as evaluated on my personal scale!”
Jason Kraus ( @zbyte64@social.rootaccess.org ) 5•1 year ago@blakestacey can’t wait to hear his take on issuing derivatives for the dating market 🙄
Architeuthis ( @Architeuthis@awful.systems ) English8•1 year agoin a world of greater legibility, romantic partners would have the conversation about “I’d trade up if I found somebody 10%/25%/125% better than you” in advance, and make sure they have common knowledge of the numbers
To be clear, that world is inceldom and they already have a term for exactly that sort of thing.
mountainriver ( @mountainriver@awful.systems ) English6•1 year agoI have been meaning to ask is there an overlap between rationalists and incels? Or do they both overlap with neoreactionaries?
At times their idea world appears close to each other.
Architeuthis ( @Architeuthis@awful.systems ) English13•1 year agoAbsolutely, you can’t keep pandering to the so called anti-woke and not end up with a lot of incel-adjacent people in your spaces, and the eugenics undercurrent feeds directly into manosphere perceptions about optimizing dating and tying your self worth to your splachnocranium/neurocranium ratio.
More specifically Scott Alexander has pandered pretty aggressively to the Dogged Good Guy demographic, and is also on the hook for being all about the ‘merits’ of neoreaction, and people like Moldbug and Emil Kirkegaard are semi-regulars in his comment sections.
Also worth noting that before the infamous EY editorial in TIME that called for airstrikes against foreign datacenters to prevent clippy from going rogue, the previous time they covered ea/rat was to report that they appear to have a serious sexual exploitation problem.
On a more speculative note, some staples of the movement like effective polyamory may have come about directly from early rationalist inability to get any on the regular. Apparently if you go reddit spelunking it appears they also went through a phase of trying to
brainwash each otheroptimize into bisexuality to stave off sexual frustration. V0ldek ( @V0ldek@awful.systems ) English10•1 year agooptimize into bisexuality to stave off sexual frustration.
Are the straights OK?
David Gerard ( @dgerard@awful.systems ) English5•1 year agoquestions that answer themselves
gerikson ( @gerikson@awful.systems ) English7•1 year agoTrawling through HN submissions shows a fascination with questions about birthrates and whether it’s acceptable that women get a choice in who to date, and the comments quickly veer into viewpoints that would not be out of place in the 1930s.
(this site is run by a very weird person but is a good snapshot of what pops up on the front page and then goes away: https://orangesite.sneak.cloud/ )
saucerwizard ( @saucerwizard@awful.systems ) English5•1 year agoBihacking for those without a harem.
AllNewTypeFace ( @AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space ) English6•1 year agobrb just updating my Bayesian priors on the value of cock
Soyweiser ( @Soyweiser@awful.systems ) English7•1 year agoI think the overlap between LW and incels comes more from the pickupartist shit which was popular there for a while. And the incels (ignoring the woman who started the movement and her intentions for it) take a lot of their ideas from the blackpill ‘I tried pua but failed and I have decided it is the fault of the world’ thinking. So there is overlap but not directly, more of a common ancestor.
^Thanks homie 👍
BlueMonday1984 ( @BlueMonday1984@awful.systems ) English12•1 year agoBold of a fucking Harry Potter fanfic writer to be giving dating advice
Architeuthis ( @Architeuthis@awful.systems ) English14•1 year agoTo the extent EA/rats perpetuate cult behavior, it’s probably safe to say that neither EY nor any other high status individuals within the space are wanting for sex.
skillissuer ( @skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de ) English9•1 year agodoes ex-FTX imperial chinese harem count?
Unbelievably gross 🤢 I can’t even begin to imagine what kind of lunatic would treat their loved one’s worth as ‘just a number’ or commodity to be exchanged. Frightening to think these are the folks trying to influence govt officials.
Architeuthis ( @Architeuthis@awful.systems ) English19•1 year agoSticking numbers next to things and calling it a day is basically the whole idea behind bayesian rationalism.
V0ldek ( @V0ldek@awful.systems ) English7•1 year agoOf course I treat my life partner as a number
number one
… yes I know where the door is
swlabr ( @swlabr@awful.systems ) English10•1 year ago“I’m sorry, I found someone with a 20000% higher PB on the original Donkey Kong cabinet, it’s over. I’m taking the kids.”
I’d never leave Donkey Kong, unless I found someone with 33.3 % (repeating of course) more funk, some sort of funky Kong if you will.
V0ldek ( @V0ldek@awful.systems ) English4•1 year agoHonestly more sensible, at least it’s an objectively measurable metric!
Steve ( @fasterandworse@awful.systems ) English10•1 year agosuch a depressing scenario to put into words.
zogwarg ( @zogwarg@awful.systems ) English9•1 year agoYud “It’s just a joke bro”: The lack of punctuation makes it an obvious joke! Let me spend the rest of this thread defending the divine truth of this joke to the bitter end.
The saddest thing is that transparency is sort of good advice, but his twisted soul sees others as tools rather than people, I guess in his case transparency lets people know to stay clear.
swlabr ( @swlabr@awful.systems ) English11•1 year agoIf Yud did his cult sermons IRL:
yud walks out onto stage, wearing a hat with a 🚫 sign with a period under it
Crowd: “Leader is wearing the silly hat!!! It’s a silly sermon! Prepare to laugh!!!”
Yud: “There should be a gulag for low IQ people and Swedes!”
Crowd: “Amazing joke, leader! We must now justify the humor!!!”
Soyweiser ( @Soyweiser@awful.systems ) English9•1 year agoRemember in the old Rationalist lore from SSC (in his liverjournal days) jokes are never just jokes. (Jokes are instead a weapon used by the feminists just like the nazis).
swlabr ( @swlabr@awful.systems ) English9•1 year agodawg if I have to grok rat doublespeak I might just double plus unalive
Soyweiser ( @Soyweiser@awful.systems ) English8•1 year agoNot really doublespeak but more them not following their own insights. (Why would they do that Soy? Glad you asked other Soy, because it isn’t about the insight, the insight is a tool to bash the ideologies they dislike, and with Scott that is often feminism).
earthquake ( @earthquake@lemm.ee ) English9•1 year agoAlmost 900 words to say, poorly, “It was just a joke (but not really)”. The short tweets feel like they’re designed for traction, but of course EY falls back on ponderous beigeness when he gets pushback.
Soyweiser ( @Soyweiser@awful.systems ) English7•1 year agoI did this, im now single but my ex gave me a ‘seeing like a state’ book.
froztbyte ( @froztbyte@awful.systems ) English5•1 year agocoming soon: a 16-tome series of logorrhoea as yud independently “newly discovers” the PUA-sphere, updated for a new generation of unsocialled and lost nerd
jonhendry ( @jonhendry@awful.systems ) English7•1 year agoCarrie Bradshaw And The Methods Of Rationality