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alyaza [they/she] ( alyaza@beehaw.org ) MA to U.S. NewsEnglish · 3 years ago

Frozen embryos are ‘children,’ Alabama Supreme Court rules in couples’ wrongful death suits

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Frozen embryos are ‘children,’ Alabama Supreme Court rules in couples’ wrongful death suits

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alyaza [they/she] ( alyaza@beehaw.org ) MA to U.S. NewsEnglish · 3 years ago
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The state's highest court reversed a judge's dismissal of the case involving embryos destroyed by a wandering Mobile hospital patient.
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  • alyaza [they/she] ( alyaza@beehaw.org ) OP
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    the opinion here is just a little bit theocratic

    • FfaerieOxide ( FfaerieOxide@kbin.social ) 
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      You can’t theologically base views you goddamned wankers.

      • snooggums ( snooggums@midwest.social ) 
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        Somehow this logic won’t be applied to executions, because these people are hypocrites even with their sky God mumbo jumbo.

    • TehPers ( TehPers@beehaw.org ) 
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      So what they’re saying is the law only applies to Christians? Satanists are plenty happy with abortions and contraceptives, surely they’d get a pass if their religious texts encourage it.

      • Xtallll ( Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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        Infinity punishment for finite transgressions is kinda the whole point of modern Christianity.

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      Humans have an infinite value yet Alabama has the death sentence.

      • LoamImprovement ( LoamImprovement@beehaw.org ) 
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        Unborn humans. Once they’re out of the womb they can go fuck themselves.

    • RamblingPanda ( RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com ) 
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      Then let the wrath of a holy God judge me and fuck off until that happens.

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    • millie ( millie@beehaw.org ) 
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      Meanwhile doing everything in their power to increase poverty and suffering.

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    • doggle ( doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      Take it to the extreme; most eggs fertilized in sex don’t result in pregnancy, they aren’t able to bind to the uteral lining and die. Anyone who has unprotected sex is very likely to cause the death of one or more “people.” Having children is now murder.

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      Manslaughter charges for the baby if childbirth kills the mother

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        Or just let the mother-to-be charge her insurance at hospital rates for all the blood transfusions and other health care she’s giving the fetus.

        (As a bit of completely unwarranted pedantry — and I’m not a lawyer — most crimes in the US and other common law countries have a mental component (mens rea). This means that e.g. to be guilty of manslaughter you must have chosen to do something willfully harmful or at least unacceptably dangerous, such as attacking someone or driving drunk. So fetuses and babies cannot be guilty of those crimes. Of course, the “charge your insurance” thing probably doesn’t work either.)

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    Would this apply to sperm as well? If so I’m a mass murderer. The sock strangler lmfaoooo.

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    So, their next step is to treat abortion as an intentional murder, I guess. I can’t imagine otherwise given this.

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    They’re not even trying to hide their christo-facism anymore. Completely un-american, what a disgrace.

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    Seems like a great way to shut down fertility clinics across the state as the political risk of getting charged for killing a child is too high.

    Way to go Alabama, now all the Christians that were using science to try to usurp God’s will that they not have children will have to travel out of state. They might even feel like the intrinsic risk of failure to conceive using alternative means is itself too great to stay in Alabama and will just move thereby further negatively impacting your state’s economy. But hey! At least you saved the frozen cells!

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    Three couples whose frozen embryos were destroyed when a wandering Mobile hospital patient dropped the specimens can sue for wrongful death because the embryos were “children,” the Alabama Supreme Court ruled Friday in reversing a judge’s decision to throw out the case.

    The Center for Reproductive Medicine, a fertility clinic used by the couples, and Mobile Infirmary Medical Center, where the embryos were being stored, claimed the couples could not sue for wrongful death because Alabama’s Wrongful Death of a Minor Act does not cover embryos outside the womb.

    The Wrongful Death of a Minor Act “applies to all unborn children, regardless of their location,” wrote Alabama Supreme Court Justice Jay Mitchell.

    That is especially true where, as here, the People of this State have adopted a Constitutional amendment directly aimed at stopping courts from excluding ‘unborn life’ from legal protection.”

    The couples accused the defendants of wrongful death, negligence and breach of contract in two lawsuits filed in 2021 in Mobile County Circuit Court.

    The patient removed embryos from the freezer, and “it is believed that the cryopreservation’s subzero temperatures burned the eloping patient’s hands, causing him or her to drop the cryopreserved embryonic human beings on the floor, where they began to slowly die,” one of the filings stated.


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