Speaking with reporters at the end of his visit to the capital Kiyv, Justin Trudeau accused Putin of “executing” opposition leader Alexei Navalny.
- theodewere ( @theodewere@kbin.social ) 27•7 months ago
hell yeah, Justin… give it to him straight…
- pipsqueak1984 ( @northmaple1984@lemmy.ca ) 15•7 months ago
The statement kinda loses it’s impact once you realize it’s coming from a leader who illegally broke up a protest against himself and his government
- Papamousse ( @Frederic@beehaw.org ) 81•7 months ago
It was perfectly legal. And those protestors asked for things like “no vaccine required to enter USA”, Trudeau had nothing to do with that. Those protestors then degenerated into various conspiracy, and basically wanted to remove Trudeau and put a dictator instead. It was almost a coup, not a “protest”.
- Szymon ( @Szymon@lemmy.ca ) English51•7 months ago
I LOLed so hard when I heard their demands were the removal of our elected representatives to be replaced with THEMSELVES
- Semi-Hemi-Demigod ( @Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social ) 65•7 months ago
It’s pretty telling that you don’t say what protest you’re talking about. Is it the stupid truckers?
- pipsqueak1984 ( @northmaple1984@lemmy.ca ) 6•7 months ago
Which other protests ended with the federal government illegally using the Emergency Act?
- Szymon ( @Szymon@lemmy.ca ) English64•7 months ago
Only if you’re an idiot that compares the attempted genocide of a people to a leader ensuring trade routes remain open for businesses and a city’s residents aren’t traumatized by racist children that like to make noise.
- BarqsHasBite ( @someguy3@lemmy.ca ) English34•7 months ago
Peaceful protest it was not.
- pipsqueak1984 ( @northmaple1984@lemmy.ca ) 3•7 months ago
According to the courts it did not meet the standard of violence required.
- Samus Crankpork ( @Crankpork@beehaw.org ) 7•7 months ago
No, according to the courts (one court), an emergency in one city does not meet the requirements for the Federal emergencies act, and didn’t take into account the negligence of the multiple layers of regional policing and government who refused to act.
- pipsqueak1984 ( @northmaple1984@lemmy.ca ) 2•7 months ago
Did you bother reading the ruling? The refusal of the city / province to act doesn’t equate to the inability of them to control the situation. The court definitely did account for that part.
- Samus Crankpork ( @Crankpork@beehaw.org ) 7•7 months ago
A city under siege with no police protection is an emergency, full stop.
- pipsqueak1984 ( @northmaple1984@lemmy.ca ) 1•7 months ago
Lol, I know people that live in the area and they’ve said it wasn’t worse than what happens during major sporting events.
- NotSteve_ ( @NotSteve_@lemmy.ca ) 8•7 months ago
I don’t know who you were talking to but I live in downtown Ottawa and it was absolutely a million times worse than any sporting event. I’m guessing your friends live in the suburbs, where the most they might have seen were some flag waving pickup trucks.
I was harassed the minute I walked out my door, there was literal shit covering the sidewalks, emergency vehicles blocked, businesses vandalised. The city basically shut down for 3-4 weeks. I know people who had to leave their homes to live with their family outside of downtown out of fear. People were physically attacked for wearing masks for fuck sakes.
Ottawa Police did absolutely nothing to stop it and Doug Ford declared a state of emergency but then pretended it wasn’t happening. The only thing that ended it all was the federal emergency act. I don’t like that it needed to be used either but the two lower levels of power completely failed
- joshhsoj1902 ( @joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca ) 6•7 months ago
Lol.
There aren’t even any major sporting venues in that area.
The people who you “know” clearly do not live in the area.
- Hootz ( @Hootz@lemmy.ca ) 5•7 months ago
Doesn’t make it illegal bud. Learn how our system works before opening your COVID riddled mouth.
- CaptnNMorgan ( @CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com ) 3•7 months ago
Why tf does it matter what the protests were about? You disagree politically so it’s okay for the government to do that? That’s a slippery slope.
- SpaceCowboy ( @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ) 3•7 months ago
“Slippery slope” is a logical fallacy.
The antivax cowards had many peaceful protests previously without issue. They weren’t getting their demands met because their demands were idiotic.
So they escalated to disrupting the functioning of the government. Using psyops tactics against civilians. Harrassing civilians. Disrupting emergency services.
And for what? It wasn’t to increase awareness of covid restrictions. These restrictions were placed on the entire population, we were all aware of them. No it was an attempt to affect a change using extortion. Changes contrary to the democratic will of the country.
Since you love the slippery slope fallacies, consider the slope in the other direction. If an organized crime outfit used intimidation tactics to get their way, could they declare it as a “protest” and get off scot free? Where do you draw the line in that direction?
- hydration9806 ( @hydration9806@lemmy.ml ) 2•7 months ago
Not commenting on the argument, but just FYI: “Slippery Slope” actually refers to an argument that could include a slippery slope fallacy, but not necessarily. A slippery slope fallacy is an informal fallacy, meaning that any errors are in the content and not the format of the argument (i.e. the slippery slope argument itself).
- Hootz ( @Hootz@lemmy.ca ) 3•7 months ago
I don’t disagree politically bro, I disagree scientifically, and logically. Our government had a responsibility to remove you terrorists, they just did it a way that allows you twats to act like your oppressed.
- CaptnNMorgan ( @CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com ) 2•7 months ago
You? I’m just a Yank who sees injustice. I don’t know anything about it other than a person in power froze the people’s bank account of some of its citizens and that’s wild asf. If they were Nazis I wasn’t aware but it’s still not okay to take money someone earned. Make a law that fines Nazis if you have to but don’t just freeze people’s bank accounts, that’s fucked up.
- Samus Crankpork ( @Crankpork@beehaw.org ) 4•7 months ago
It’s always the people who weren’t there who continue to push the idea that it was a peaceful protest.
- Hootz ( @Hootz@lemmy.ca ) 3•7 months ago
Most frozen accounts were organizers and people who were receiving money from others to continue with their “protests” or people espousing violent rhetoric. If you just believe the ticktoks you’re never going to see reality. These fucking idiots are still protesting all over our country, afraid of digital IDs ,vaccines, demanding mandates be dropped, people be rehired. Like dude they crazy and don’t mesh well with reality.
- pipsqueak1984 ( @northmaple1984@lemmy.ca ) 2•7 months ago
If it wasn’t illegal then the government wouldn’t have lost the court case.
- BarqsHasBite ( @someguy3@lemmy.ca ) English3•7 months ago
So you agree it was violent and not peaceful? Lol whoops.
- pipsqueak1984 ( @northmaple1984@lemmy.ca ) 1•7 months ago
In a world where some consider mean words and minor action as violent, yes it was.
- BarqsHasBite ( @someguy3@lemmy.ca ) English3•7 months ago
Lol means words and “minor action” it was not. Well we can see you for what you are, trying to downplay reality. Cheers.
- @ NovaNaturalist ( @NovaNaturalist@mstdn.ca ) 15•7 months ago
@northmaple1984 @sik0fewl your statement kinda loses its impact when you realise he didn’t do what you described.
- pipsqueak1984 ( @northmaple1984@lemmy.ca ) 3•7 months ago
Courts disagree
- @ NovaNaturalist ( @NovaNaturalist@mstdn.ca ) 3•7 months ago
@northmaple1984 One judge, to be appealed ≠ “courts”
- Gramshelper 🇨🇦😷🌻🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ ( @WJBL@mstdn.ca ) 14•7 months ago
@northmaple1984 @sik0fewl
Oh, F off. - Hootz ( @Hootz@lemmy.ca ) 11•7 months ago
There’s a difference between illegal and not meeting a standard to use a policy.
Also y’all weren’t protesting him you were protesting people with brains.
- bane_killgrind ( @bane_killgrind@kbin.social ) 10•7 months ago
lol WHAT ABOUT the time Trudy cucked the Ottawa police when they couldn’t perform
- dangblingus ( @dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 6•7 months ago
Funny, I seem to recall a bunch of bad actors larping as truckers blocking every single street in downtown Ottawa and blocking international borders obstructing trade. This wasn’t just a bunch of people with signs down on the corner that Trudeau didn’t like, they were intentionally stoking political fires and creating a national security issue. It was also shown that the “truckers” that didn’t want to get vaccinated got vaccinated in overwhelming numbers, even greater percentages than other industries due to the need to actually cross borders to do their job. The protestors were funded by American fascist groups.
- groupofcrows ( @groupofcrows@lemmy.ca ) 3•7 months ago
It took weeks of inaction from Ford and the Ottawa police before Trudeau finally had to act to restore order.
- delirious_owl ( @delirious_owl@discuss.online ) 14•7 months ago
Careful what underwear you put on there, Trudie
- uis ( @uis@lemm.ee ) 11•7 months ago
For downvoters: Navalny was poisoned with novichok on his underwear
- delirious_owl ( @delirious_owl@discuss.online ) 2•7 months ago
Even if someone doesn’t understand the context, thats not what the downvoted button is for.
- littlecolt ( @littlecolt@lemm.ee ) 6•7 months ago
I mean, is he wrong?
- Victor Villas ( @villasv@lemmy.ca ) 2•7 months ago
Always amusing that the thread with the most convoy shitbags participation tends to be Russia related