• odelik ( odelik@lemmy.today ) 
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      When did “a Chad” become a positive term? From my experince growing up it was a mid-west term for rich city kids, and then later on the internet it became a red piller/incel term for “Alpha male”.

      Is this one of those “taking it back” and owning it things to take power away from red pillers & incels?

      Nick Offerman:

      I’ve enjoyed the hell out of his content. I loved it when Adam Savage This Old House did a shop tour with him. I’ve also listened to his Twain’s Feast audiobook and enjoyed the hell out of that. The historical journey through American regional cuisine was amazing. And how much we’ve actually lost is even more amazing.

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        I think it’s just more ironic than “taking it back”. I don’t think anyone worth respecting would call themselves “a Chad”.

        So in context for this, a dude doubling down on his gay love story is certainly not what an incel would attribute to “a Chad”, but the rest of us could look at Nick Offerman and say “damn, I respect the hell out of that guy, what a Chad”.

      • Riven ( Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        In my extended friend group we use Chad as a comedyish thing to call someone when they do something cool/good or perceived as cool/good but we mean it. While someone calling themselves a Chad in a non self deprecating way is usually a dbag.

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      I remember when it was coming out, and everyone on reddit was going gaga over how faithful to the story it was.

      Then that episode came out and everyone loved it, so as someone who didn’t play the games, naturally I wondered if it was in the game, as that had been apparently of utmost importance to the fans.

      But merely asking “was it in the game?” got an army of angry people calling me every name in the book.

      I never even watched the show because I thought that was just so fucking stupid. Fans ruin every franchise.

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        People had a knee-jerk reaction to your question because there were lot of conservative snowflakes at the time complaining that they added “woke” politics to the show (a ridiculous idea, but I probably don’t need to tell you that).

        Fans of the show were on edge and defensive, don’t let the “culture war” ruin your experience. I highly recommend watching the series.

        And, to answer your question earnestly, in the game Bill and Frank’s relationship was only implied in a note that Frank left to Bill after killing himself. The show focused heavily on their relationship and took it in the opposite direction; a decision most fans loved, because it was done really well. In the game, Bill rejected Frank’s attempts to let other people into their life and drove him away, while in the show Bill slowly opened up and lived a long happy life with Frank despite the apocalypse.

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    I think the Last of Us demonstrates the difference between writing a story around the character vs the sort of crap in other shows where inclusivity is more like a box ticking exercise and a casting quota.

  • Stop acknowledging it, Nick. Embody Ron Swanson at Home Depot for just a moment. Some internet freak is complaining about the Frank/Bill episode of TLOU? Is breathing life into their argument by acknowledging it above or below Ron Swanson’s pay grade? Does he in fact “know more than you”?