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paperemail ( paperemail@links.rocks )  to 196@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 years ago

Apolitical Rule

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Apolitical Rule

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paperemail ( paperemail@links.rocks )  to 196@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 years ago
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  • CarbonIceDragon ( CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social ) 
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    If chess were a new game released today, I imagine a lot of these “why’d they make it political” types would probably object to the fact that the most powerful character in the game is the only one that’s clearly stated to be a woman.

    • neptune ( neptune@dmv.social ) 
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      Don’t let your pawns transition to female: promote to knight or rook

    • Farid ( abfarid@startrek.website ) 
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      Well, originally, the piece is Vizier - king’s advisor, the gender of which isn’t specified. (but implied to be male?)

      • Malgas ( Malgas@beehaw.org ) 
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        The wazir only moved a single space horizontally or vertically.

        The name change from wazir to queen started as early as the 10th century, but the current move set dates from the late 15th century.

        • Farid ( abfarid@startrek.website ) 
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          Actually it’s still called Vizier (or something close) in several languages.

          • Malgas ( Malgas@beehaw.org ) 
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            But we’re talking about that piece as the most powerful in the game, which happened in Europe, where it had been called a queen for hundreds of years.

            • Farid ( abfarid@startrek.website ) 
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              Yes, the modern, more powerful piece is still called that even in some languages in Europe, like in Turkish and several Slavic languages, like Ukrainian and Russian. In Polish it’s apparently called something akin of “top general”.

  • lugal ( lugal@lemmy.ml ) 
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    It’s not about killing the king. The king can never be killed. It’s about keeping him in check until he can’t move anymore

    • tiltinyall ( tiltinyall@lemmy.org ) 
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      No politics here, we can go about our business.

  • Cowbee [he/they] ( Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) Banned from community
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    The Fallout community is ludicrous with this. New Vegas is one of the most politically charged games in recent years, and yet chuds think it’s somehow not extremely anticapitalist and pro-leftist.

    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 🏆 ( Kolanaki@yiffit.net ) 
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      That’s because those people have a hard on for the Brotherhood and don’t see how they’re basically technonazis.

    • tmyakal ( tmyakal@lemm.ee ) 
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      extremely anticapitalist and pro-leftist

      There’s definitely some enlightened centrist bullshit crammed in there pretty unironically.

      • Cowbee [he/they] ( Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) Banned from community
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        The NCR is both Capitalist and Imperialist, the fact that the people of the Mojave don’t want the Neoliberal expansionist empire or the fascist gang of slavers is more to the general leftist, almost Anarchist slant.

        It’s only centrist if you consider the NCR as the end of the spectrum, and not just a lesser of two right wing evils.

  • SrTobi ( SrTobi@feddit.de ) 
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    Chess does not involve politics, because there is no decision making in groups. The chess in Harry potter where the pieces can talk to you… That has politics

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns] ( uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    The story I heard (now apocryphal) is the chess was invented (using live actors as pieces) to allow a prince to explain to his mother why it was necessary to kill his brother on the field of battle. A literal lesson in politics.

    Sadly, I can’t find the source and Wikipedia says the origins of Chess are debated by scholarly historians.

    • Carlo ( Carlo@lemmy.ca ) 
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      That sounds like the kind of fact that they’d have had on an early series of QI, only to retract it in a later series and redistribute points.

      Just checked, looks like that story comes from an 11th century Persian epic poem, Shahnameh. It doesn’t seem to be referenced in that article, but is discussed in this one.

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