Damn Lemmy users are no different from Reddit. Don’t read anything. Take anything you did read out of context. Be sure to rage post your own ignorance so we can all read about it.
Was this comment meant for another thread? I’m confused
Yeah sure it’s user fault and not the click bait headline, I’m sure they can describe the whole article in one headline without any confusion, oh and probably half of lemmy user are used to be redditers
You forgot to mention it’s no different from Reddit with the horrible titles either.
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I mean it’s just another format they’ll be supporting. If you don’t want to watch in that format, don’t.
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I mean it’s just another service they’ll be supporting. If you don’t want to watch that service, don’t.
Better?
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I really don’t see how this is enshittification or anti-consumer. Nothing about your use of or experience of VLC changes if you simply don’t use FAST streams. To me this seems similar to whether or not to ship patent encumbered codecs.
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I’d be fine with VLC having a way to watch proprietary Blu-Rays. I think it has that feature and it does seem useful for those who want to watch Disney Blu-Rays. VLC is supposed to be pretty much a swiss army knife of media players, after all.
If you wanted to compare to the kernel then best comparison would be to something like proprietary drivers or something.
Yay VLC!
From the tail end of the short, and easy to read article: If you want an early look at the upcoming changes with VLC 4.0, you can download (https://nightlies.videolan.org/?ref=news.itsfoss.com) the latest nightly release from the official website or the latest “Edge” build from the Snap store (https://snapcraft.io/vlc?ref=news.itsfoss.com). VLC 4.0 (Early Build) (Snap Store) (https://snapcraft.io/vlc?ref=news.itsfoss.com)They have an Ubuntu PPA which I used through distrobox. The weirdest way to get an app on the system, while there is a flatpak they dont seem interested in adopting it.
plans to support ad-supported online media streams
Why are they saying it like it’s something good and exciting?
rewriting the whole core of VLC for the 4.0 release which will see a new interface
Where have we see it before? It’s basically the classic scenario where popular software/service makes a complete chnage of design nobody asked for and it fails miserably. I recommend everyone to make a backup of the installer of the last version before this release…
I really don’t see the what the fuss is in this thread. The source does make it seem a bit nefarious, but even so, it appears the changes in VLC amount to adding support for a streaming format and adding a channel listing of some sort.
FAST is simply a streaming format. Whether to run ads is an individual decision of each channel.
If I can have a streaming client that can play certain streams versus one that can’t, I’ll obviously pick the former. (Unless they employ a DRM scheme which does weird things to my devices but it doesn’t appear that’s part of the discussion here.)
Yep, here’s the section
When he was talking about that, he also shared that they plan to add support for FAST channels and other kinds of ad-supported online media streams that would allow users to watch ad-supported movies, TV shows, and more.
However, he also clarified that plans for this were not finalized yet, and if it were to happen, it would be optional for VLC users.
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It does when you consider that there are over 1,500 FAST channels in the US alone, plus countless others around the globe, with the number still growing.
They already support other forms of streams, why not this. It would be weirder if they chose to not support it
Yeah, I think evil bastard streaming services choosing open source (VLC) is rather a win for the society.
They dont display ads, the channels send video streams that have embedded ads for money purpose things (whoever buys shit because of ads)
Why would that need special support? If the ads are embedded, that should work out of the box.
They support adding online streams which is currently not there or hard to find
Isn’t this an optional feature? Wouldn’t you have to log in to that service?
Didn’t it already have that for years? Sounds like they’re ‘just’ adding support for signing in/ads
It seems to be the FAST protocol/channels they are adding support for.
Changes are looking good, great to see it is still very active!
I swore this was already a feature. I remember years ago (15+) I was able to play YouTube videos on it.
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Dude, they are not starting their own ad supported streaming service. They are merely adding dupport for one more streaming protocol that happens to be used for that. If these services were using RTSP for their streams, they’d already be supported. This is absolutely in line with VLC’s swiss army knife-approach.
Otherwise, new GUI sounds good to me. The old one is proven but a bit clunky.
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But it has had networking capabilities for like… ever? RTSP, HTTP, …
It also supports some funky stuff like raw H.264 over UDP if you use ffmpeg to prepend special packets to the start of the video stream (Ideal for a DIY low latency video streaming solution ). If you decrypt digital OTA tv signals (DVB format), VLC will play the live underlying raw mpeg stream just fine.
Truly a swiss army knife of video playback, especially the underutilized network url file open option
I mean it is right there in the name: Video Lan Client.
My first use of VLC 20yrs ago was to stream video. it is the core of the product.
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Yes, “VideoLAN Client” doesn’t sound like anything which might have network support.
VLC stands for VideoLAN Client, and was originally designed as a player for network streams provided by the VideoLAN server. It also supports local media playback, which has become its most common use. It adding additional streaming functionality is just reinforcing its original purpose.
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One doesn’t have to use the feature and it’s not like it’s going to be felt, nor noticeably use any resources when not in use.
Remember those Winamp channels? Hope this leads into that. IPTV is supported by Winamp but not the easiest way to use it, maybe this would make that better too.
Edit - sorry I meant IPTV is supported by VLC*
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How would they earn money on this? It’s still a FOSS project. They are simply revamping their GUI and adding support for one more protocol.
Plex is NOT FOSS! Plex is a private company’s cash cow.
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I’ve met the devs in person. They keep turning down literal suitcases full of cash from people who want to bundle adware and crap in one of the most popular programs ever. Don’t assume VLC is going down that road – they’ve stuck to their ethics for decades.
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I just saw the screenshot of the early design of the new UI, looks like crap.
I even disliked the change from wXwidgets to Qt way back in the day, I have come around and like the Qt interface now, I don’t expect that to happen with the new UI
It seems to have the “Classic” option as well, so it’s fine.
new ui is literal trash.
media formats it already does, and it is expected to support nearly everything. but as far as a front-end for whatever tf they’re planning–there are plugins and extensions already, it should be there. not in the base code.
Yeah, it looks like they are trying to port the mobile UI to their main program, going backwards in terms of usabillity on mainstream computers
That smells like proprietary software and drm
Oh god, no…
Stick a fork in it, it’s done.
Why lmao?
Sorry, that was supposed to be a pun on “fork”, in release-management sense of the word.
The question was “why,” you may as well be protesting the addition of a new codec
Ain’t nobody want thisHowever, he also clarified that plans for this were not finalized yet, and if it were to happen, it would be optional for VLC users.
Happy to see some sanity prevails.
Having read the article, it sounds like the logical evolution of VLC. FAST Channels are here to stay and they actually are a vital thing in a world where Google have a monopoly on online video. While they’re not what I would go for, I’m glad they’re available as even my cable provider offers FAST channels.
Will be interesting to see VLC compete with JWPlayer and the various forks of it.
Also I don’t think anyone disagrees that the core needs rewriting and the UI needs a refresh. Wonder when Android will start seeing these builds on the beta channel.
