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They are just jealous that someone else is getting all the tasty data, and they think it should be going to a US company instead.
I’m a bit worried about the amount of people I see making this argument whenever I see posts about a TikTok ban/acquisition.
I’m getting the impression that, either:
- People don’t believe there’s (significant) Chinese propaganda on TikTok.
- People believe there would be (significant) US propaganda on TikTok following an acquisition.
- Given the choice, people would rather see Chinese propaganda than US propaganda.
Am I correct? Is there a nuance I’m missing?
I can understand concerns over point #2 here, but #1 and #3 seem wild to me.
Given the choice, people would rather see Chinese propaganda than US propaganda.
Well since I see US propaganda literally everywhere else it’s nice to get some counter-programming.
Yli.think you make a reasonable point, but it feels like choosing between getting stabbed in the left leg vs the right leg.
If it were the US vs another democratic country, I would feel like that too.
I’m particularly concerned with China (and Russia) because:
- They are not a democratic country.
- They do not have freedom of speech like most countries
- As far as I perceive, they are generally enemies of well-intentioned countries.
I might have a different perspective though. I’m a fairly recent US immigrant from Canada.
Edit: I’d like to add, my tone may come across wrong over written text, I’m just trying to understand people’s overall perspective and whether mine is different, I’m not trying to argue and I’m not upset at you nor any of the commenters I’ve seen on similar posts.
You’re getting hit by a some bad faith willful misunderstander comments
It’s true that Russia or China aren’t well-intentioned nor democracies AND the USA belongs to that same group.
They are not a democratic country.
Why would you say that? Meanwhile, Princeton University Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy. Which isn’t surprising since capitalist democracy is a sham democracy.
They do not have freedom of speech like most countries
I can only say that they are freer than Anglosphere propaganda claim. Meanwhile Julian Assange has been a political prisoner for 12 years and counting, despite even the major Global North corporate media pleading for his exoneration.
As far as I perceive, they are generally enemies of well-intentioned countries.
I’m not sure which countries you’re referring to, but maybe you mean the other imperial core countries. As neocolonizers, they are no more well-intentioned than the US is, from the perspective of the periphery countries they plunder.
Except US TikTok data is hosted by Oracle in the US…?
Doesn’t matter who hosts it. Oracle has no access to the user data. Just because some website is hosted there does not mean that they can see the data.
Despite this, they don’t believe tiktok’s assurances that the CCP doesn’t actually have ready access to the data. However the only evidence they’ve presented is testimony from a former employee.
More than that, US companies have maintained monopolies for decades in the tech sector, and feel entitled to them even as markets shift away.
Wish we could just implement some form of federal standards that are aimed towards protecting US citizens’ data instead of just banning a service like tiktok because “China bad”.
Good. I don’t use TikTok and never will, but the government shouldn’t be able to tell you what kind of speech you listen to, what speech you make, or what platforms you use to communicate it. This is some 1984 shit. Looking forward to Trump banning every app except Truth social because we opened the door to this nonsense and all the other apps are spreading “anti-christian hate speech” or “anti-american-first propaganda”. Fuck the CCP. But also fuck the government trying to restrict speech.
Global Earth Federation should just ban all spying software