• Only because the Democrats have contributed to support a failed and broken system because it sometimes kept them in power.

    Conservatives have been openly stating their goals for the last hundred years all the Democrats had to do was stop supporting the status quo.

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                  You did not read your own link. They did not call it service cleansing (yet).

                  A UN human rights expert warned today that Palestinians are in grave danger of mass ethnic cleansing

                  I agree with the expert though. There is no need to invade Rafah, to expel Palestinians, or even eradicate Hamas (since it is impossible). To do so will justify calling it ethnic cleansing and indeed that does seem to be Likud’s aim.

              • Interesting that the chart starts in 1948. It seems to miss that immediately prior 80% of Palestinians were forcibly removed from their lands and/or massacres by Zionist settler militias.

                Next you’ll tell me that the population swap between Greece and Turkey was a genocide too, considering how you count the migrations of Jews that occurred after Zionists murdered and purged as many Arabs as they could from Palestine.

                The conflict has existed longer than the Israeli state and ignoring that time period only obfuscates the reality of the situation.

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                  Yeah I would call myself a Zionist because it merely means I think they deserve to live in that area. Not exclusively like “from the river to the sea” or anything. A two state solution is Zionist.

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                For a more informative explanation of this chart, and what’s right, and what’s wrong:

                • After the 6 Day War in 1967, when Israel attacked 3 of its neighboring countries, those countries and other states either allied to them or sympathetic, DID actively persecute and expel large parts of their Jewish populations, and seized their homes and valuables. That WAS ethnic cleansing.
                • In the 1948 Palestine War, Israel violently displaced 750,000 Palestinians, which was more than half of the population, and the military and settler militias killed many thousands more. That was ALSO ethnic cleansing. This is completely erased by this chart.
                • In the 2023-2024 Israel-Gaza conflict, Israel has displaced over half of Palestinians in Gaza, destroyed their homes and livelihoods, and targeted essential infrastructure like water and power, and denied food entry, in order to make Gaza unlivable. This is ALSO ethnic cleansing. This is also completely erased by this chart.

                The chart is inherently biased by another key point, which is that ethnic cleansing is not based on national borders. A UN commission of experts on humanitarian law violations defines Ethnic Cleansing as: “…a purposeful policy designed by one ethnic or religious group to remove by violent and terror-inspiring means the civilian population of another ethnic or religious group from certain geographic areas.”

                The Commission of Experts also stated that the coercive practices used to remove the civilian population can include: murder, torture, arbitrary arrest and detention, extrajudicial executions, rape and sexual assaults, severe physical injury to civilians, confinement of civilian population in ghetto areas, forcible removal, displacement and deportation of civilian population, deliberate military attacks or threats of attacks on civilians and civilian areas, use of civilians as human shields, destruction of property, robbery of personal property, attacks on hospitals, medical personnel, and locations with the Red Cross/Red Crescent emblem, among others.

                The UN themselves has identified Israel’s action in Gaza in 2023-2024 as an ethnic cleansing.

  • Democracy was dead from the beginning, the ‘founding fathers’ were afraid of the masses and the structure of the government is a reflection of that. On top of that the dominance of political parties (which George Washington warned against) makes it essentially impossible to vote for someone who generally shares your interests which is what you’re supposed to be doing in a democracy.

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      We had only once in US history a candidate who was not committed to peaceful transfer of power and who incited insurrection. No, not every election you have a choice to vote for or against such candidate.

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    Thank you for posting this. I’ve put it on my FB page (very tiny, family and close friends only). My Bernie loving friends who won’t vote for Biden because he’s too conservative or whatever need to see it. And my conservative family members who consider themselves trump loving patriots need to understand the consequences. I captioned it “If you believe in democracy, please vote to support it.”

    If we’re going to keep Trump from a 2nd term, each of us needs to do what we can to convince all our friends and family to vote in support of democracy.

  • So… Trump has promised to carry out a coup if he doesn’t win. A good coup would be indistinguishable from him just winning… Yet, people keep saying “vote harder.” Like, yeah, this is all super important stuff and the more people vote the harder it will be for Trump to carry out the coup… But a lot of people have put in a lot of money to make this happen so he’s going to have another coup attempt. This time it won’t be a bunch of idiots, it will be Eric Prince and the Academi soliders who got deployed in Portland.

    If you are in the US, you need to prepare to fight. If he wins, democracy is over. If he doesn’t win, democracy is probably over too since he’s already rigged the supreme court so he can steal the election and make it look legal. Police all over the country have already pledged allegiance to him. When you come out to protest they will run you over with SUVs and just open fire on you. They’ll shoot at reporters to make sure no one can see what’s happening, just like they did during the George Floyd rebellion. But this time they’ll just kill people and claim they were violent.

    You all need to be ready for the absolute worst. You also need to vote to make it harder, but voting will absolutely not be enough. You need to prepare.

    • You should actually watch the video because you might be surprised that he directly talks about Gaza and states his position (no more money for Israel if they can’t control their violent impulses). You know, instead of spouting off like a blind partisan.

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        Yeah, he says that and then says you need to vote for Genocide Joe. Just a reminder that Bernie is a Zionist and waited until Dec. 13 to even call for a ceasefire. He’s hot garbage, just like AOC who refuses to call the conflict a genocide.

        • Reductive purity testing won’t end the genocide you know. Do you know the position of the Republican candidate on Gaza? (hint: it’s an example of actually advocating for genocide)

          Refusing to take steps to reduce harm enables the worst outcome and there are also other issues besides Gaza that exist beyond this wedge issue.

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            I’m not quibbling. Bernie is supporting a man committing genocide. Oh, Trump is advocating for genocide? Why should I give a hoot whether Biden says he likes genocide while he gives Israel the bombs they are using in the genocide. Words mean nothing if your actions contradict them. Biden’s duplicity is no virtue. At least Trump has the spine to own his crimes. Biden kills babies while crying crocodile tears, and Bernie is his apologist. Shame on them all.

            You know what won’t end the genocide? Wringing our hands while we vote for the politicians carrying it out.

            • Don’t infantilize Netanyahu and the IDF. They’re doing the genocide. Bernie is opposing a person that wants total immunity from the law and is advocating for what he believes even still.

              There are more things to consider than Israel Hamas. Don’t be the left wing equivalent to pro lifers. Hyped up on a wedge issue to the extent you let yourself get taken advantage of by the rhetoric of the worst actors.

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                How can you be so cold blooded as to call the starvation of 2.3 million people a “wedge issue”?

                There was recently a story about a woman in Ohio who left her baby in a pack 'n play while she went on vacation for two weeks. She returned to find the baby dead from starvation and dehydration. I imagine my own baby wailing with hunger for days on end.

                This is what Israel is deliberately subjecting tens of thousands of children to while Biden continues to give them weapons and diplomatic cover. This isn’t a wedge issue. This isn’t a talking point. This isn’t a bargaining chip. As long as we are on the wrong side of this issue, we are “the axis of evil” in the world. We are irredeemable.

  • https://www.hiddendominion.com/sir-glubbs-250-year-hypothesis-on-the-duration-of-great-nations/

    Anybody who pretends that the US hasn’t operated as an empire, there is even a book named “How To Hide An Empire” on it.

    That insight ( the link ) of Glubb’s was important.

    Please glance at the history backing it, in that table, on that page…


    I believe it is partly that the empire-rulers identity becomes sooo completely mis-matched from the actual composition of the empire, that it is an inevitable self-destruction, at that age of its evolution.