- Fermion ( @Fermion@mander.xyz ) 60•6 months ago
For anyone who thinks this would be a good tradeoff, this would be the worst sleep of your life.
I’ve only had sleep paralysis a couple times and it was always because I was stressed about homework/work and my brain kept trying to work through the problems in my sleep. It is a terrible experience. Sleep is about way more than physical rest. Depriving your brain of good sleep will ruin your memory and make functioning during the day exceedingly difficult.
Plus, let’s look at what employers did in response to women entering the workforce. Has average household income doubled? No, pay has stagnated to the point of households needing two incomes to meet expenses. Don’t expect working through your sleep to mean a life of leisure in the day. You’re more likely to see wages fall to the point where everyone needs a day job plus a sleep job.
- burgersc12 ( @burgersc12@mander.xyz ) 13•6 months ago
Lucid dreaming is just becoming aware that you are dreaming. Doesn’t affect sleep quality at all. Now forcing a lucid dream seems like it might make you sleep worse, but I’m sceptical it even works tbh
- irmoz ( @irmoz@reddthat.com ) 23•6 months ago
I don’t think anyone’s saying that the lucid dreaming alone is bad.
It’s exploiting the lucid dream state to force people to work when they should be resting.
- No_Eponym ( @No_Eponym@lemmy.ca ) 9•6 months ago
Dreams are important for your brain to do it’s brain shit. Integrate memories, work out subconscious things, deal with the what-the-fiyling-fuckishness of being an ape that has an over-developed cognitive realm. Lack of REM makes your mind angry, and can literally kill you. How do you think hijacking such an important process which has evolved over millennia to do menial office work will go? Let’s ask taste receptors and high-fructose corn syrup…
- FiniteBanjo ( @FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ) 5•6 months ago
So the thing is
Dreams are supposed to be the mind sorting and copying loosely connected memories for long term storage (because cells don’t have a long shelf life) and therefor utilizing the brain during sleep will in theory cause a person to not perform that regular maintenance and eventually sustain permanent brain damage or loss of memory.
You are not supposed to be aware of dreaming. Dream perception is a side effect of maintenance.
- bobs_monkey ( @bobs_monkey@lemm.ee ) 48•6 months ago
- uis ( @uis@lemm.ee ) 1•6 months ago
Matrix is affordable housing program.
Murino, Kudrovo is where I am.
- Neato ( @Neato@ttrpg.network ) English25•6 months ago
I saw the Nick Cage movie Dream Scenario and I’m going to say “fuck no get out of my head” right off the bat.
Between this bullshit and Musk’s brain chips the future is looking pretty bleak.
Also I suggest people check out Made for Love. It’s a show about what happens when a billionaire eccentric weirdo creates a brain chip…
- GBU_28 ( @GBU_28@lemm.ee ) English5•6 months ago
I just watched this yesterday. a weird one, no surprise from Nick.
Spoilers
Was he manipulating the connective consciousness with his desire for attention then anger at rejection? Or was it just random sci Fi with his character at the center?
Edit If the former, I choose to view it as an alternate timeline origin story for Freddy Kruger even though that character was mentioned in the movie
- Neato ( @Neato@ttrpg.network ) English2•6 months ago
I think he was unintentionally manipulating the connective consciousness. I.e. his unconscious dreams were bridging that gap. And in the beginning he was somehow mass-projecting himself into dreams that reflected his emotional state.
- GBU_28 ( @GBU_28@lemm.ee ) English2•6 months ago
I guess I wish they had shown a bit more exposition on how it started, even if he never knew what he was doing
- shiveyarbles ( @shiveyarbles@beehaw.org ) 14•6 months ago
I want to make sure I’m squeezed for every drop of productivity… my purpose has become clear
- Blackmist ( @Blackmist@feddit.uk ) English11•6 months ago
If I work in my sleep I get the day off, right?
Right?
- LoamImprovement ( @LoamImprovement@beehaw.org ) 8•6 months ago
The fuck is a ‘day off?’
- uis ( @uis@lemm.ee ) 11•6 months ago
“Does it mean I can enjoy life during day?”
“No, it means you will work day AND night.”
“Does it mean I will be paid more?”
“No, you will be paid less.”
- JasonDJ ( @JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ) 9•6 months ago
Oh man.
We should all act like these totally work and they’re a huge boon to productivity.
Normalize mid-day office naps! PAID naps!
- Kusimulkku ( @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ) 8•6 months ago
Working while sleeping and having the rest of the day for myself seems cool
- hex_m_hell ( @hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net ) 12•6 months ago
Yeah, no. This would become “8 hours for working, 8 hours for working while you’re asleep, and 8 hours working because ‘fuck you’ that’s why”
- Kusimulkku ( @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ) 5•6 months ago
I don’t think much of anything will become of this tbqh.
- technomad ( @technomad@slrpnk.net ) English5•6 months ago
and having the rest of the day for myself
XD
- Kusimulkku ( @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ) 2•6 months ago
I mean if I sleep 8 hours and I did my 8 hour shift, no more work
- fine_sandy_bottom ( @fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de ) 4•6 months ago
I don’t think that’s how this will work.
- Kusimulkku ( @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ) 4•6 months ago
Probably won’t work at all tbh, but if I got the option, I’d rather sleep work than awake work is all I’m saying.
- hex ( @hex@programming.dev ) 3•6 months ago
I think he’s trying to say, corporations being greedy and all, will end up making us work 16 hours a day instead
- Kusimulkku ( @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ) 1•6 months ago
No I understood it, that’s what everyone is saying hah.
- fine_sandy_bottom ( @fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de ) 1•6 months ago
No, what I actually mean is, I doubt the manufacturer / inventor will claim that the device will work in this way.
- technomad ( @technomad@slrpnk.net ) English3•6 months ago
Ok, it’s a nice thought.
I’m trying not to be too negative here, but have you seen the innumerable graphs/charts that show the productivity increase vs. wage stagnation, etc.? Hard not to see how this would be abused immediately for corporate -profit$- instead of benefiting the workers.
- Kusimulkku ( @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ) 1•6 months ago
I’ve seen them, but I was just trying to get away from the constant doom posting for a while and think how nice it’d be to be able to be done with work right away when you wake up.
- ThatFembyWho ( @ThatFembyWho@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English8•6 months ago
Lmao I can’t even imagine what crazy surrealist shit I’d come up with in my sleep.
“So, fembywho, I believe you worked last night, any progress you would like to share?”
“Ahem. Yes, uh. cough I searched for the lost spirit of my old acquaintance V from high school who bravely sacrificed herself for the good of humanity, and now is our only help against the alien menace. My companions thought her temple would be the most likely place to search, but I didn’t expect to find anything. Her spirit is hiding somewhere only I can find, but I haven’t been able to access that knowledge. I have seen visions and flown across many lands.”
“Excellent progress. Keep us informed.”
- BigBananaDealer ( @BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee ) 7•6 months ago
did nobody learn from hypnospace outlaw?
- BluJay320 ( @BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English4•6 months ago
Glad I wasn’t the only one…
Better get your beefbrain shield now
- SimplyTadpole ( @SimplyTadpole@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 1•6 months ago
It’s another “don’t create the Torment Nexus” situation again…
- simple ( @simple@lemm.ee ) 6•6 months ago
They literally stole this from Hypnospace Outlaw
- SimplyTadpole ( @SimplyTadpole@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 2•6 months ago
I’m very glad I’m not the only one here to have thought this 😅
- Arthur Besse ( @cypherpunks@lemmy.ml ) English4•6 months ago
sources and image transcript:
- the top half of the image is screenshot of this article about a startup claiming to be able to use ultrasound to induce lucid dreams so that “people can work in their sleep”. (spoiler: it’s vaporware)
- the lower half of the image is a screenshot from this (imo worth-watching) 2 minute video from 2016: Hayao Miyazaki’s thoughts on an artificial intelligence with the subtitle “I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself.” There is a more detailed description of that video here. (Guillermo del Toro agrees.)
- Fizz ( @Fizz@lemmy.nz ) 4•6 months ago
Fuck I’d take that deal. I get to sleep 8hr and wake up paid. Id only work in my sleep
- bleistift2 ( @bleistift2@feddit.de ) English3•6 months ago
This isn’t new. The upside is that you can, for instance, practice playing the guitar in your sleep. Or work out. It makes a measurable difference.
- HorriblePerson ( @HorriblePerson@feddit.nl ) English3•6 months ago
Wasn’t this on an episode of Trash Future?