Edit: Jesus Christ, people. If you buy a $150 Thinkpad made by slave labor instead of a $1,200 MacBook made by slave labor, you’re still supporting a capitalist economy based on slave labor. We all do. We have no choice. The number of smug liberals in the comments saying “well I buy a cheap used laptop” or “well I buy coffee beans and make my own coffee” are completely missing the fucking point.
Don’t tell yourself your consumption is moral. All of us make unethical choices every day because there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Accept your shame and guilt and let it drive you to do better.
Macs naturally can not be stolen or obtain second hand as a gift or in some other sort of deal.
Huh? You can absolutely change mac ownership if the current associated account holder is involved. It’s a very simple process.
Now, if you need to remove an activation lock without the involvement of the registered account holder, it’s a huge pain in the ass (had to go through this with a work laptop a year ago).
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Sarcasm, friend
As Linux enthusiast I think I have to jump in and say if you’re not using a 10-year-old Thinkpad bought second hand running EndeavorOS you’re not a true socialist
(Obviously I’m not serious but Poe’s Law is a bitch)
Are there any Thinkpads with dedicated gpus? I did a bit of a search but could only find ones with integrated graphics which for me is a deal breaker
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Yes several. Some have quadro graphics for professionals too.
jump ininterject for a momentFTFY.
It’s because they aren’t using a used ThinkPad
I AM using an old thinkpad! Huzzah!
Damn you capitalism for forcing me to buy a mac!
Could’ve been a gift
When I went through college I had to get a MacBook as part of my kit
Literally couldn’t use a different device if I wanted to because of forced app usage (when there were cross platform alternatives that would work just fine)
I’ve also worked somewhere that forced a MacBook onto me as a work device but also allowed us to sticker it up if we wanted cuz they weren’t gonna take it back until it was basically useless anyway
Many places one can get a mac, a couple of them are actually forced on you
Also a product isn’t a bad product, just because it is produced under capitalism. A computers ability to compute does not depend on its mode of production.
i understand what you’re saying, but technically a computers computing ability is entirely dependent on how it’s produced. Especially in the case of apple, where with intel they really like not giving you any cooling at all, i guess they thought it was funny or something? Or with the new M series macs where they dont give you any ram, because god forbid people use normal amounts of ram.
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Oh sorry, I forgot I had the option of pulling a “Sliders” and finding myself in Socialism world, where I can get a tax-payer funded laptop and coffee I get according to my needs, paid for by what I can give with my abilities… Completely fair to judge me for that!
I mean I agree, though there are some less capitalistic options than Apple and Starbucks if you really hate capitalism. Those companies are amongst the most capitalistic businesses available.
That said, does it really matter what brand of guillotine you use to cut off billionaires heads with?
Another point to her cause I haven’t seen in the comments -
How old is that MacBook and how many hands has it passed through? In my experience, anybody with new (any tech really but ESPECIALLY) Apple products keeps that shiz pristine. I grab a cheap laptop off CL though I’ll absolutely sticker it up.
My vote is she’s in a school program or something that requires macos stuff and grabbed it second hand off someone on the cheap.
… or maybe she thought it’s an edgy sticker and fits her style?
Idk. But if you really were serious about smashing capitalism, it’s kinda irrelevant how much stuff you buy, there’s a lot of groundwork to be done, organizing and educating. For all we know, that may be what she’s doing in that photo.
If she dressed in rags, owned nothing and was homeless, I fail to see how that would accomplish anything more.
Although I prefer to support local businesses, not a fan of massive corporate chains. My city has dozens of local coffee shops that serve fair trade products. I can walk to a half dozen of them, whether or not I bring my ancient 2011 laptop. But I do love my principles being questioned by smug internet randos so 🖕
Eh, never fear your principles being questioned even by “smug internet randos”. Lest you become the smug internet rando yourself.
Introspection is a never ending task.
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is not like most popular alternatives are any better
Not in the ways you mentioned. Apple is the most profitable of them all though (due to their horrendous prices, duh), which doesn’t fit an anti-capitalist attitude. I guess, it could be a second hand laptop but they are still supporting that ecosystem.
Your not allowed to have things if you don’t support capitalism, you must live like a preindustrial peasant or else you are a hypocrite. /s
Really a fucken mac and a cup of coffee is trivial compared to billionaires and their private jets and mega yachts.
1200$ isn’t even that much for a luxury item jeez and its not even really a luxury item. For an absolute fuck load of jobs, as well as online billing and banking and a whole host of other crap its 100% a requirement to own your own laptop. Yes it would be great if that wasn’t necessary, hence the anti capitalism, but individuals fucking themselves over by trying to pointlessly abstain from participating is not going to solve things.
I don’t drive, I don’t own a car, I fucking hate cars, but I don’t shit on people who have one because I understand its necessary for them. And even with me trying to abstain I still end up dependent on cars a lot and in a lot of ways it fucking makes my life more difficult. I am fucking mad at the systems that made that a requirement not at the people who are just trying to survive in the system. Its not magic how we ended up here, people in power made choices.
Thats what’s so annoying about these lines of reasoning is you get accused of hypocrisy if you don’t intentionally make your life shit
1200$ isn’t even that much for a luxury item jeez and its not even really a luxury item. For an absolute fuck load of jobs, as well as online billing and banking and a whole host of other crap its 100% a requirement to own your own laptop.
hot take: maybe im a tech nerd and this is why, but i would feel genuinely bad if i spent more than like 300-500 dollars on a laptop.
Same
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Imagine owning a laptop that you can’t replace ram or the ssd of.
Imagine owning a laptop that’s too bulky to be comfortable anywhere but a desk
One of the places I worked had a nice little Thinkpad that was light AF and even had a touchscreen. You could still replace the SSD and RAM without tools. It also was durable as hell.
There is no reason for parts in an Apple computer to be soldered other than planned obsolescence and making it impossible to repair.
I bet it also cost significantly more than a MacBook Air too, but my comment wasn’t even in defense of Apple. It was a general statement until this point.
Ultralight laptops exist outside of Apple, you know that right?
And you also can’t usually replace their ram or SSD. Wild how I didn’t even mention Apple in my comment but apparently that’s the only laptop you think is light that you can’t replace the ram and SSD in.
Then find one that does. “most of them” isn’t an excuse.
Well an argument against Apple products specifically is that they promote anti consumer trends.
Proprietary cables, unrepairable devices, having an ecosystem that is hostile to third party devices, popularising things like sealed batteries or removal of headphone jacks.
Apple actively is making the tech world worse imo.
Paying $7 for very shitty coffee is still a strange decision to me, but I understand
Different people like different shit. Live and let live.
Nobody is forcing you to buy a mac and a Starbucks 🤣
Lmao participate in capitalism or die! That means you should spend all your money on the most expensive version of all your luxury items instead of using an old PC and making coffee at home. Internet hard-lefties need to take a look in the mirror, go outside, and readjust their priorities. Its these jokers that leftists get lumped in with that make us look bad. Yes, the original picture in this post is hilarious and ironic for all the same reasons it was originally posted, and I say that as someone who might agree with most of the laptop person’s political views
