- narc0tic_bird ( @narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee ) English79•6 months ago
Is it 100% confirmed now that the DMCA is from Nintendo themselves? I find it weird that they’d go after (initially small) forks when Ryujinx exists.
The Suyu team also hosts their code under https://git.suyu.dev, so I wouldn’t exactly call it dead (yet).
- 520 ( @520@kbin.social ) 42•6 months ago
There is no confirmation that this came from Nintendo, nor does it list the actual infringing parts like a normal takedown request should.
- WarmSoda ( @WarmSoda@lemm.ee ) English60•6 months ago
I mean, if you’re going to scream “I’m doing this!” as loud as you can, it’s not a surprise when you get noticed.
- OsrsNeedsF2P ( @OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml ) English42•6 months ago
That was the intention. Even the name Suyu is to bring more eyes
- WarmSoda ( @WarmSoda@lemm.ee ) English1•6 months ago
So it was all for show?
- OsrsNeedsF2P ( @OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml ) English2•6 months ago
Nah it’s a real project that’s continuing Yuzu’s work, but only half their project is continuing the emulator. The other half is sticking the middle finger to Nintendo, and doing that requires being really obnoxious and loud.
Suyu is a pun for “Sue you”, which Nintendo would love to do
- RiQuY ( @RiQuY@lemm.ee ) English45•6 months ago
Now I need to consider Gitea and Codeberg. Thanks for the reminder GitLab.
- rho50 ( @rho50@lemmy.nz ) English72•6 months ago
Don’t use Gitea, use Forgejo - it’s a hard fork of Gitea after Gitea became a for-profit venture (and started gating their features behind a paywall).
Codeberg has switched to Forgejo as well.
Also, there’s some promising progress being made towards ActivityPub federation in Forgejo! Imagine a world where you can comment on issues and send/receive pull requests on other people’s projects, all from the comfort of a small homeserver.
- RiQuY ( @RiQuY@lemm.ee ) English21•6 months ago
ActivityPub integration on git remote repos sounds very interesting. Thanks for sharing that, I’ll definetely take a look at Codeberg/Forgejo.
- Fisch ( @Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de ) English11•6 months ago
Can’t wait for forge federation, it’s super annoying that I need an account for each individual instance just to report a bug
- Gamma ( @GammaGames@beehaw.org ) English7•6 months ago
What features are paywalled?
- bitwolf ( @bitwolf@lemmy.one ) English5•6 months ago
None?
If you need action runners you have to ask for them which is fair as it’s expensive.
If you self host it’s all free.
- rho50 ( @rho50@lemmy.nz ) English3•6 months ago
This sadly isn’t true anymore - they now have Gitea Enterprise, which contains additional features not available in the open source version.
- bitwolf ( @bitwolf@lemmy.one ) English2•6 months ago
I think we were talking about Forego, but now I’m not sure.
To be clear Forego is what I was stating didn’t have pay walled features. I know Enterprise auth works, but I haven’t used the others yet.
- rho50 ( @rho50@lemmy.nz ) English3•6 months ago
Ohh, my bad! I thought the person you were replying to was asking about Gitea. Yeah, Forgejo seems truly free and also looks like it has a strong governance structure that is likely to keep things that way.
- rho50 ( @rho50@lemmy.nz ) English5•6 months ago
From here:
- SAML
- Branch protection for organizations
- Dependency scanning (yes, there are other tools for this, but it’s still a feature the open source version doesn’t get).
- Additional security controls for users (IP allowlisting, mandatory MFA)
- Audit logging
- zgasma ( @zgasma@lemmy.sdf.org ) English2•6 months ago
radicle.xyz checks those boxes, but it’s gossip protocol, not activitypub.
Still cool, though.
- CuteistFox ( @CuteistFox@reddthat.com ) English0•6 months ago
doesnt have issue tracker
- zgasma ( @zgasma@lemmy.sdf.org ) English0•6 months ago
It does, but it’s a little obtuse to use.
- CuteistFox ( @CuteistFox@reddthat.com ) English1•6 months ago
oh it must of benn a new update
- ShadowCat ( @ShadowCat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English3•6 months ago
codeberg also removes piracy related projects… gitea is certainly an option tho
- Ahri Boy ( @ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English3•6 months ago
Self-hosting Forgejo is a way to go.
- ShadowCat ( @ShadowCat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English1•6 months ago
seems like that’s what suyu did
- bitwolf ( @bitwolf@lemmy.one ) English27•6 months ago
Why TF would you put it on gitlab instead of hosting your own forejo instance?
I swear, some people are just too eager to get in headlines rather than thinking things through.
- caseyweederman ( @caseyweederman@lemmy.ca ) English4•6 months ago
For all the free publicity when it gets taken down. They were probably hosting it six different ways already
- Zedstrian ( @Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English14•6 months ago
Codeberg next?
- Fisch ( @Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de ) English10•6 months ago
They already have their own Forgejo instance at git.suyu.dev
- insomniac_lemon ( @insomniac_lemon@kbin.social ) 11•6 months ago
If someone needs the name of the next fork, I’d suggest “Yutu”. (or Ettu)
- UsernamesAreDifficult ( @UsernamesAreDifficult@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English8•6 months ago
Not too surprising but still disappointing regardless. Self-hosting is the only way to go for this.
- ahoy_me_boy ( @ahoy_me_boy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English22•6 months ago
Another, even better way is IPFS.
Regulators can take down your self hosted site. They cannot take it down if everyone has a piece of it (IPFS).
Works just like torrents do. Spread it out, and no one can stop it.
Still selfhosted, kind of, but by everyone.
- And009 ( @And009@lemmynsfw.com ) English1•6 months ago
Sounds like piracy with extra steps
- Zink ( @Zink@pawb.social ) English7•6 months ago
Still mad it isn’t named 2zu
At least it seems suyu has devs now though
- TheGalacticVoid ( @TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee ) English1•6 months ago
SuYu is a way better name given why it was created in the first place.
- onlinepersona ( @onlinepersona@programming.dev ) English7•6 months ago
We need federation of sourceforges FFS.
- RiQuY ( @RiQuY@lemm.ee ) English11•6 months ago
I’ve been seeing for a while comments like yours that put a license link at the end of the comment. Can you explain to me the benefits of doing that or is it makes any difference? If I’m not mistaken the content posted on a Lemmy instace adheres to the license that the instance is using.
- onlinepersona ( @onlinepersona@programming.dev ) English12•6 months ago
It’s purely for commercial AI on my end. Researchers have gotten LLMs to spit out their training data: street addresses, medical data, entire comments, and of course licenses.
Some countries are still deciding whether commercial LLMs are infringing on copyright by training on copyrighted material without approval, others have already decided. I think the major economical zones that will impact legality will be the USA, EU, and China.Until a decision has been made, I’ll continue adding the “free for all except commercial use” license.
Also, copyright is very complicated. If you copy an entire article from a newspaper and paste it into a post on a lemmy instance, which license does it have? That of the newspaper or that of the lemmy instance? If it’s the former, then what’s the difference if it comes from your brain and not a newspaper? Would it make a difference if the comment were written first on a blog and then copied to lemmy? If it’s the latter, then what’s the point point of the newspaper or the author ever copyrighting it somewhere else if it can just be overridden?
Next question regarding copyright, since comments are copied and stored on different servers, who would then own the copyright? The lemmy instance sending the comment or the one receiving it?I’m not a lawyer and probably things aren’t clear cut. Might be one in one country and a different thing in another.
- flamingarms ( @flamingarms@feddit.uk ) English6•6 months ago
My understanding of the Creative Commons licenses is that they are for providing permission to people to use something that they wouldn’t be able to otherwise, due to copyright or other issues. I don’t think the licenses are capable of limiting what people can do with something if it’s already the wild west, or do I have that wrong?
- onlinepersona ( @onlinepersona@programming.dev ) English3•6 months ago
You’re free to click the link 🙂 The terms are stated quite clearly.
NonCommercial — You may not use the material for commercial purposes .
- flamingarms ( @flamingarms@feddit.uk ) English4•6 months ago
Oh I clicked the link, mate, and read through a couple links deep. What I’m saying is that my understanding of the license is that it allows permissions for a restricted item, but it does not restrict an item with open permissions. You know what I mean? You need to be a rights holder of something that is protected by copyright or the like, and then you can use this license to open permissions in certain ways, in this case that the item can be used for non-commercial means. So this wouldn’t work with stuff on Lemmy, right?
- onlinepersona ( @onlinepersona@programming.dev ) English3•6 months ago
Yeah, that’s not how I understand it, mate. It’s a copyright license with “some rights reserved” instead of “all rights reserved”.
Also text can be restricted. Just because a newpapers publishes an article to public without a paywall, doesn’t mean the text is without copyright. Additionally, it’s not necessary to be a registered, commercial entity in order to be a rights holder. Somebody who makes a video of an event has the right and ability to sell it to news broadcasters. It doesn’t have to a freelancer or a TV studio - any private person may do so.
Of course, this all changes per jurisdiction and we’re on the internet, which makes things even more complicated.
- flamingarms ( @flamingarms@feddit.uk ) English5•6 months ago
You say it’s a copyright license, and I think that’s exactly where I’m struggling with this. My understanding is that this is a license for something copyrighted or otherwise protected. Copyright protects things from their creation. A copyright license provides certain people action that would otherwise be denied by copyright. So are you saying that your understanding is that what we write here on Lemmy is copyrighted, with authors holding the rights? That would be helpful to know because that has not been my understanding of copyright (and I know country plays an important role here), so that would be interesting to look into.
- TwiddleTwaddle ( @TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English3•6 months ago
People have been telling them that for months.
- WarmSoda ( @WarmSoda@lemm.ee ) English2•6 months ago
You’re wasting your time, and you look stupid doing it. Absolutely no one cares about your little link or what it says. It won’t stop a single thing.
- RiQuY ( @RiQuY@lemm.ee ) English1•6 months ago
Are you adding it manually or do you have some sort of automation?
- onlinepersona ( @onlinepersona@programming.dev ) English5•6 months ago
I have a keyboard shortcut that inserts it. So, kinda manually. Would be great if it were like on the old bb forums with signatures.
- WarmSoda ( @WarmSoda@lemm.ee ) English2•6 months ago
Dude thinks he’s defeating reality with Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V
- sleepybisexual ( @sleepybisexual@beehaw.org ) English5•6 months ago
So uhhh, what now
- catloaf ( @catloaf@lemm.ee ) English17•6 months ago
- sleepybisexual ( @sleepybisexual@beehaw.org ) English2•6 months ago
That links to gitlab
- Subversivo ( @Subversivo@lemmy.eco.br ) English11•6 months ago
No. Thays links to a self hosted Forgejo.
- zarenki ( @zarenki@lemmy.ml ) English6•6 months ago
The readme file, gitmodules file, and other links within that repo all still reference the now-dead gitlab links. The builds don’t seem to be present at all.
That will all probably be fixed soon enough but right now that mirror which seems to have just been pushed as-is isn’t entirely usable.
- sleepybisexual ( @sleepybisexual@beehaw.org ) English1•6 months ago
Oh, must have clicked a link in the repo
- 0x2d ( @0x2d@lemmy.ml ) English2•6 months ago
that’s not gitlab
- sleepybisexual ( @sleepybisexual@beehaw.org ) English1•6 months ago
Yea, I was wrong lmao
- olicvb ( @olicvb@lemmy.ca ) English7•6 months ago
another one will rise no doubt, either they use a platform that doesn’t care for DMCA’s or they play the whack-a-mole game with the enforcers
- sus ( @sus@programming.dev ) English2•6 months ago
ironically suyu is still up on github
and of course ryujinx hasn’t received any legal threats yet
- sleepybisexual ( @sleepybisexual@beehaw.org ) English1•6 months ago
We need android ryunjinx
- SomeBoyo ( @SomeBoyo@feddit.de ) English2•6 months ago
Aren’t there any git services hosted in countries like Russia?
- PoliticallyIncorrect ( @PoliticallyIncorrect@lemm.ee ) English0•6 months ago
Isn’t gitlab owned by M$?
- OsrsNeedsF2P ( @OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml ) English1•6 months ago
GitHub is, Gitlab isn’t
- PoliticallyIncorrect ( @PoliticallyIncorrect@lemm.ee ) English0•6 months ago
Alright understood 👍👍
- Draconic NEO ( @Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English0•6 months ago
They aren’t you’re thinking of Github, though Gitlab is far from immune to corporate corruption.