- DarkGamer ( @DarkGamer@kbin.social ) 10•6 months ago
Oh the irony. One doesn’t use terms like, “neocolonial imperialist,” without having their own sort of indoctrination first.
- tocopherol ( @tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 14•6 months ago
My doctor uses terms like “acute encephalopathy”, damn their medical school indoctrination.
- DarkGamer ( @DarkGamer@kbin.social ) 5•6 months ago
Clearly medical knowledge acquired through critical study and evidence is different and more objective than political opinions.
- tocopherol ( @tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 14•6 months ago
The point is it’s not just an unsubstantiated opinion, there is a long history of political science, involving ‘critical study and evidence’. Terms like imperialist and neocolonialism aren’t buzzwords like ‘woke’, they have distinct definitions.
- DarkGamer ( @DarkGamer@kbin.social ) 3•6 months ago
As you say, such characterizations are a matter of opinion. That’s quite unlike medical knowledge which is established by objective, not subjective, evidence. Generally I hear such accusations leveled at credible, mainstream sources that don’t fit the narrative of those on the far left.
- tocopherol ( @tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 10•6 months ago
They aren’t a matter of opinion though, there are defining characteristics accepted by a historied scholarly community that correspond with these words. There are ranges of perspectives as is common in any social science, so it is viewed as a ‘softer’ science compared to physics or chemistry but it is a science no less.
It may be common for criticial leftists to use these sort of terms flippantly, but that doesn’t remove their meaning or usefulness in the larger discourse.
- irmoz ( @irmoz@reddthat.com ) 10•6 months ago
As you say, “thing they didn’t say”
lol
- onoira [they/them] ( @onoira@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English11•6 months ago
indoctrination is when words
- Kwakigra ( @Kwakigra@beehaw.org ) 6•6 months ago
Can you explain why someone who knows what the words “neocolonialist” or “imperialist” mean wouldn’t use them to describe the “global north” and “global south” disparity? I’m interested in your theory.
- Not_mikey ( @Not_mikey@slrpnk.net ) 5•6 months ago
If anything it’s the opposite. Propaganda implies your only getting one side of the issue, so the less words or concepts you know the more likely you are to have been propagandized.
- irmoz ( @irmoz@reddthat.com ) 3•6 months ago
Brilliantly said.
- irmoz ( @irmoz@reddthat.com ) 5•6 months ago
Explain
- DarkGamer ( @DarkGamer@kbin.social ) 5•6 months ago
The road goes both ways.
“When you point a finger at someone, three fingers are pointing back at you” -African proverb
- irmoz ( @irmoz@reddthat.com ) 11•6 months ago
You’re not explaining anything. How does understanding neocolonialism and imperialism equate to being indoctrinated?
- Gingerailed ( @Gingerailed@kbin.social ) 6•6 months ago
this dude’s whole argument is “no u” lmao
- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 5•6 months ago
Why does the road go both ways? If you point at a fish, and call it a fish, is it because you’re also indoctrinated?
- davel [he/him] ( @davel@lemmy.ml ) English4•6 months ago
As if the hegemonic liberal capitalist terms you’ve used your whole life aren’t from indoctrinations. The Fascism of Common Sense
- GBU_28 ( @GBU_28@lemm.ee ) English6•6 months ago
Better to just live by example rather than get people to change their mind.