• If laser disc taught us anything, even mastered optical media has a shelf life. The glue holding the layers together going to fail and those discs are going to be worthless… My discs are going to be worthless

  • There was an article the other day where like so many TB fit on a disc with a new laser, and really made me think, how much TB on a disc would it take to make our internet look like pigeon mail again?

    I mean we need the media quality to utilise it all, but it doesn’t yet cos of the cost of storage and portability. But if 5TB fit on a disc, man would the landscape change.

      • There’s some places in Africa they send usbs with stuff on pigeons if it’s more than a couple gigs cause regular internet is so slow and unreliable it’s literally faster and safer.

        • Olds, Alberta has municipal gigabit Internet because the main engineering firm in town was using couriers to send USB sticks between their two offices. They were considering leaving since the Internet providers weren’t willing to build “expensive infrastructure” in a small town, so the municipality took it on.

          Now Olds has the cheapest fast Internet pretty much anywhere in the country.

          Anyway, point being: it’s not just happening in developing countries.

    • Once unlimited fiber internet comes to somebody’s neighborhood, it seems like we’d need a new use case to make sneakernet / pigeonverse worth it for consumer use. People download 100+GB games every day without a second thought.

      Maybe there are some cases where it would be nice to carry a ton of data physically with you, but you can already fit a lot of data in a small portable hard drive.

  • This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Some film fans never gave up physical media: they’ve spent years quietly buying thrift-store discs, discarded by the many US households that no longer have DVD or Blu-ray players, and waiting for their chance to rise again.

    Physical media fans of all types tend to see themselves as survivalists prepping for apocalypse – “When the streaming sites took off,” someone told me, “people thought I was crazy for still collecting, but now I feel like my time has finally come” – or like the Irish monks and Arab scholars who, during the Dark Ages, are said to have protected the knowledge of antiquity while Europe burned books as firewood.

    Derek Loman, in Missouri, told me he was so nostalgic for the old days that he turned his home office into a replica 90s video store, complete with a candy aisle and a door in the back marked ADULT.

    Streaming isn’t wholly bad – it’s convenient, still cheaper than cable, and can give people outside metropolitan areas easier access to new series and films, including international pictures, like 2019’s Parasite, that might have been slower to circulate in the Blockbuster days.

    “It became clear to me, roughly at the time of Netflix’s transition from sending hard-copy discs to your home to the streaming era, that there was value in retaining your own physical media,” the writer and podcaster Sean Fennessey, of The Ringer, told me.

    The modest online store that he and his wife ran from their home near Philadelphia, DiabolikDVD (“Demented discs from the world over”), began doing such brisk business that he moved the operation to a warehouse and hired four employees.


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