I’m considering switching from Windows 10 to something either using KDE or the new Cosmic DE that System76 is working on. Right now I’ve got a 3060TI.
- Communist ( @Communist@lemmy.ml ) English17•8 months ago
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/merge_requests/967
The short version of the story, wait until this has landed in your distro of choice, or you’ll have flickering problems.
- Enoril ( @Enoril@jlai.lu ) 4•8 months ago
I’ve spent some time reading this page and the associated exchanges between these people/devs. Amazing work and professional behavior. I’m impressed.
How would I find out this patch is in, say, Fedora?
- Communist ( @Communist@lemmy.ml ) English5•8 months ago
First, wait for that pull request to actually show “merged” instead of open, then, wait for a release of xwayland, you can find those here: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/tags
Once that’s been released, note the version number of the version of xwayland that has explicit sync
https://packages.fedoraproject.org/pkgs/xorg-x11-server-Xwayland/xorg-x11-server-Xwayland/
then look here and see if the version number matches or is greater than it.
edit: woo it’s merged.
- Deello ( @Deello@lemm.ee ) 3•8 months ago
You found your way here. Just wait until it happens. Alternately maybe follow Fedoras release notes
- Aatube ( @Aatube@kbin.melroy.org ) 11•8 months ago
https://arewewaylandyet.com/ has links to the caveats at the bottom, though it doesn’t mention CosmicDE, which is also in pre-alpha rn so I’d recommend use something stabler rn, especially for your main computer
For KDE, they are:
- Make sure
nvidia_drm.modeset
is set to 1 - Night Color (yellow tint at night) is not applied to the mouse cursor: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=479889
- This seems like a non-KDE and universal issue as I have it with AMD on Windows too
- Poor performance on external screens on hybrid GPU setups when using NVIDIA GPU as a secondary GPU because it requires CPU copying from the primary GPU to the secondary GPU (see https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/merge_requests/1031, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452219)
- Make sure
- GadgeteerZA ( @GadgeteerZA@fedia.io ) 7•8 months ago
@UntouchedWagons@lemmy.ca on Manjaro KDE with Nvidia proprietary drivers mine works 100% on X11, but with Wayland I still get random freezes of about 40 secs to a minute. It’s better than it was a year back when it would not boot into Wayland at all. I understand this issue is affecting some using the Nvidia proprietary driver and supposedly may be resolved with KDE v6, but I’m still waiting for the KDE v6 to hit stable release.
- Matt ( @DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml ) 6•8 months ago
KDE 6 has already been released. Please migrate to EndeavourOS.
- lemmyvore ( @lemmyvore@feddit.nl ) English5•8 months ago
It was released but that doesn’t make it stable… It’s currently still receiving lots of bugfixes and improvements.
Not sure what switching to Endeavour would accomplish anyway. They both get the same packages from upstream. If you want to get them slightly faster you can switch to the testing repos on Manjaro.
Also, can we stop reacting to everything with “wipe everything and install the distro I like”? How about working with what they have first, there’s often a solution.
- LeFantome ( @LeFantome@programming.dev ) 4•8 months ago
Those packages are not going to be any more stable when you get them. Just older.
When you get the bug fixes happening now, it will be long after Arch and EOS did.
My impression is that EndeavourOS is more stable than Manjaro after using both extensively.
Anyway, I agree as a general principle that we should stop telling people to switch distros to solve specific technical problems.
That said, you do not have to wipe everything to move from Manjaro to EOS. I have done it on multiple machines. Perhaps their suggestion was to fix your problem in place.
- Matt ( @DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml ) 3•8 months ago
You don’t have to. Just replace Manjaro mirrors with the Arch ones, and you’re good to go.
- lemmyvore ( @lemmyvore@feddit.nl ) English2•8 months ago
Sooooo, ignore every point I made and propose jumping to yet another distro. Great advice.
- Dotcom ( @Dotcom@lemmy.ml ) 7•8 months ago
Manjaro has a history of being sloppy especially with web security. The reason people suggest Endeavour has the same goal (more user friendly arch) without some of those drawbacks.
- lemmyvore ( @lemmyvore@feddit.nl ) English1•8 months ago
Let me try smaller sentences.
Plasma 6 just came out recently. It still has issues. It’s going to keep having issues until they’re fixed. You changing distro does not make the KDE developers fix the issues faster.
- Dotcom ( @Dotcom@lemmy.ml ) 1•8 months ago
You seem to be missing the forest because of all the trees in your way. The statement to not use Manjaro has nothing to do with KDE or any other DE/WM and everything to do with the development of the OS.
- GadgeteerZA ( @GadgeteerZA@fedia.io ) 2•8 months ago
@DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml why wouldn’t I just rather change channels on Manjaro if I wanted it earlier. Changing distro’s really seems a bit extreme and going to cause other config issues. I still use X11 as my daily driver so quite happy to wait another two or three weeks until Manjaro has finished ironing it out.
- ulkesh ( @ulkesh@beehaw.org ) English1•8 months ago
No, I don’t think I will, nor does it make any sense to suggest such a nuclear option. Like the person you replied to, I’ll wait until it shows up in Manjaro stable repos.
I tried Plasma 6, after its release, on Wayland with my nvidia card and many things were still broken.
- umbrella ( @umbrella@lemmy.ml ) 7•8 months ago
last i used it, 3ish months ago, it was still unusable.
- LeFantome ( @LeFantome@programming.dev ) 5•8 months ago
Things should be taking a giant leap forward in a month or two:
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/04/explicit-gpu-synchronization-for-xwayland-now-merged/
- webghost0101 ( @webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ) 5•8 months ago
Besides g/free-sync and stuff like framegeneration not being supported Nvidia works just fine for me incl for gaming
Okay that’s good to know, thanks!
- ManniSturgis ( @ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip ) 4•8 months ago
Works just fine with hybrid graphics. Nvidia only? Yeah, not so much.
- Da_Boom ( @Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi ) English3•8 months ago
I have 2 PCs
my main one is full AMD running hyprland -5800X, 7900XTX, 32GB ram, etc.
My second PC is solely used for streaming and is running an old GTX 1070 for encoding purposes.
From what I can see, I’ve not really had any issues running hyprland on it. Though I will admit it doesn’t do much beyond running Carla, OBS, Qpwgraph, Firefox, discord and jack_mixer on specially designated workspaces. And it streams soley via EVGA Xr1 Lite capture devices. It does have desktop-portal-hyprland, just in case I want to capture my stream PCs desktop, but I don’t really use it much. It’s connected as a second input to my secondary monitor, and has a mirrored display on a small touch screen so I don’t have to swap monitor inputs too often, and can trigger scene changes with just a touch. The hardest part was getting the monitors to play nicely, as the touchscreen sits upside down.
Full specs of my second PC, as it’s quite old - Intel Core i5-4690, ASRock H97M pro4, 16GB Ram, EVGA GTX 1070, Intel 120GB SSD, 1TB WD Green 5400rpm HDD.
- Xirup ( @Xirup@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 3•8 months ago
I currently have a Thinkpad W530 with a Quadro K2000M. Because I have coreboot as its firmware, I am able to run completely on the discrete GPU. So far I’ve been doing great.
I’ve looked on the feature matrix of the nouveau support and my GPU (Kepler) happens to have all the features checked-off, with the exception of dynamic power management (mostly WIP).
Right now, I’m running KDE wayland with the nouveau driver with no issue.
On the other hand, I’ve tried having the hybrid GPU and it sucks.
I’m not a bot, I just find funny this.
- Tenkard ( @Tenkard@lemmy.ml ) 2•8 months ago
There’s a bug with arch distros and the Nvidia driver 550 which is breaking systems, the drivers should get updated on the 15th of May and some fixes could come out sooner, but in the meanwhile I’d wait a bit
- XNX ( @xnx@slrpnk.net ) 2•8 months ago
Only issue i get is Spotify flickers randomly
Is Spotify an electron app? I’ve noticed on my laptop (with intel gpu) that in Discord the screen flickers when selecting a gif and Discord is an Electron app I’m pretty sure.
- XNX ( @xnx@slrpnk.net ) 1•8 months ago
I think it is and yeah Spotify and discord both sometimes flicker but nothing else does. They’re both installed as flatpaks
- timkenhan ( @timkenhan@sopuli.xyz ) 2•8 months ago
I currently have a Thinkpad W530 with a Quadro K2000M. Because I have coreboot as its firmware, I am able to run completely on the discrete GPU. So far I’ve been doing great.
I’ve looked on the feature matrix of the nouveau support and my GPU (Kepler) happens to have all the features checked-off, with the exception of dynamic power management (mostly WIP).
Right now, I’m running KDE wayland with the nouveau driver with no issue.
On the other hand, I’ve tried having the hybrid GPU and it sucks.
- shrugal ( @shrugal@lemm.ee ) 2•8 months ago
I have flickering issues with some Electron apps. Everything else seems to work fine, including a 2nd monitor. But I still dual-boot Windows for games, I’m waiting for HDR support to fully make the switch.
- ardi60 ( @ardi60@reddthat.com ) English1•8 months ago
Good. But, xorg only
- Aatube ( @Aatube@kbin.melroy.org ) 1•8 months ago
that is very incorrect
- ParetoOptimalDev ( @ParetoOptimalDev@lemmy.today ) 1•8 months ago
Flickering makes it true for all xwayland games such as proton until nvidia driver with explicit sync.
- qpsLCV5 ( @qpsLCV5@lemmy.ml ) 3•8 months ago
most games have never had flicker issues for me on arch/sway with a rtx2070. Steam itself used to be unusable and last i checked was still a bit glitchy, Discord also sucked, but the games always worked fine.
apart from some issues with recognizing the mouse cursor in a few games.