Microsoft has 18 months to convince folks to upgrade.
        • jkrtn ( jkrtn@lemmy.ml ) 
          6·
          2 years ago

          Ubuntu is good for if you want Snap packages forced on you. It is a shame, Ubuntu was my first distro, but I don’t think I would ever use it again.

        • floofloof ( floofloof@lemmy.ca ) English
          2·
          2 years ago

          I recommend OpenSuse Tumbleweed if you want stuff to be very up to date (we got the xz backdoor first! yay!) but also easy and stable. And KDE Plasma is pretty good these days. Linux Mint is also good but it’s a bit slower with the updates.

      • tooLikeTheNope ( tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml ) 
        5·
        2 years ago

        I tried a few, Fedora, LMDE(Linux Mint Debian Edition), and EndeavourOS.

        I’d say LMDE if you want a rock solid system, being fundamentally Debian Stable with Mint treatment for user friendliness, or Endeavour if you want bleeding edge updates (and of course bragging rights to join the meme by saying “BTW I use arch”)

          • RandomException ( RandomException@sopuli.xyz ) 
            2·
            2 years ago

            Same! I started with Ubuntu back in the days and was shocked how weirdly bad it is nowadays when I was forced to use it at my current project with the client’s laptop. I mean the happy path is still all fun and easy but after having Ubuntu installed, it’s almost like a Windows experience trying to get stuff installed vs. having AUR available :D

    • RandomException ( RandomException@sopuli.xyz ) 
      2·
      2 years ago

      I have to give huge thank you to Valve for making gaming on Linux actually a valid option. I’ve been mainly a Linux user since 2006 but always had to have a dual-boot setup for gaming. Seeing the progress on Proton, I decided a year or two ago that Windows 10 was going to be the last one I’ll have on my PC and since my SSD died a couple of months ago, I didn’t even bother to preserve the Win10 installation anymore.

      Funnily enough on my front page, the next link below this post was “Microsoft starts testing ads in the Windows 11 Start Menu”. I think that pretty much sums it up why I don’t want to even try to mess with the thing anymore. It’s been a good run and Windows has improved A LOT since XP days but oh dear god all the data harvesting nowadays…

  • Moonrise2473 ( Moonrise2473@feddit.it ) 
    35·
    2 years ago

    If only they didn’t intentionally give up compatibility with 250 million PCs by introducing artificial CPU requirements, then adoption rate would be higher…

    But blackrock and vanguard (they control ~15% of Microsoft, Intel, AMD) really needed to increase their profits by selling more CPUs…

    Also it didn’t help that until October 2023 the taskbar was completely broken and unusable, people like me forbid the installation of the os in the company for that reason alone

    • voxel ( vox@sopuli.xyz ) 
      13·
      2 years ago

      the taskbar still broken and unusable.
      icons straight up disappear when you switch virtual desktops using the touchpad, tray icons sometimes don’t show up, messing with some things can cause an explorer crash

    • melpomenesclevage ( melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee ) Banned
      4·
      2 years ago

      Yeah, maybe a few delusional shit heads making insane decisions for absurd reasons completely insulated from reality by a thousand layers of abstraction isnt good and we should just count anything run this way as already dead?

      • Moonrise2473 ( Moonrise2473@feddit.it ) 
        11·
        2 years ago

        Combined icons make the computer unusable for who has multiple windows open from the same application.

        For example if you constantly have to switch between 5 excel files you can’t directly click on which you need

        It’s the reason I can’t stand MacOS at all

        • Vlyn ( Vlyn@lemmy.zip ) English
          3·
          2 years ago

          Well, you can’t directly click, but all you need to do is hover for half a second, then click the window you want (which open up above). It’s a non-issue.

            • Vlyn ( Vlyn@lemmy.zip ) English
              4·
              2 years ago

              I mean I didn’t check how long it actually takes, it’s not 500ms.

              It opens quick, but I can’t find the default value (you can change the behavior via registry), but it’s definitely less than half a second. Especially when you’re already hovering down there it appears near instant for me.

              And let’s be honest: The only reason why multiple icons worked back in the day was because the name of the open workbook was next to it. So you had “(Excel) My Workbook 123.xlsx” in your taskbar. Which ended up as a mess when you had several programs open. Now you have one Excel icon, you hover over it and you see all your open workbooks as a preview so you select the one you want. It’s definitely cleaner.

            • icesentry ( icesentry@lemmy.ca ) 
              2·
              2 years ago

              It keeps the order in which it was open, it’s not 500ms, and we can certainly dismiss someone that says something is unusable when it is in fact usable just not in the way they like.

        • icesentry ( icesentry@lemmy.ca ) 
          2·
          2 years ago

          Sure, that’s not ideal, but it’s far from unusable. I’ve used the combined icons since windows 10 wqs released and never had any issues. It works fine for me.

    • EldritchFemininity ( EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
      7·
      2 years ago

      It’s good except for the fact that Windows 11 is tied to a piece of hardware level security of supposedly nebulous benefit to your average home user. So tons of computers that would otherwise be fine are going to end up being entirely replaced and turned into e-waste instead because their motherboard doesn’t have a TMP chip on it.

      But that’s an issue with Microsoft requiring TMP for Windows 11, not them telling people that they’re gonna stop getting stuff like security updates.

      • blindsight ( blindsight@beehaw.org ) 
        3·
        2 years ago

        I wonder if there’s a debloated version of Windows 11 that removes the TPM requirement…

        Regardless, I’m this | | close to switching to Linux; I just need to make sure I can get OneDrive and full MS Office running in Linux reliably, since I need both for work. The Steam Deck has convinced me that I don’t need Windows anymore for gaming, so it’s only work holding me back. (Work pays me a stipend to maintain my own work computer hardware, so I do work on “my” machine.)

        Edit: Looks like it’s actually pretty easy to do.

        • bitfucker ( bitfucker@programming.dev ) 
          3·
          2 years ago

          If you are fine with the older office suite (2019 I believe), there is a codeweaver program called crossover. They are the teams that make WINE a reality and they have a one version license so you can own it forever. Or yeah, you can also use VM.

            • bitfucker ( bitfucker@programming.dev ) 
              4·
              2 years ago

              Yeah, that is if I remember it correctly. But I do remember installing a modern office suite back then using crossover. They also have trials so you can test your target program is indeed running as it should before buying.

    • hitmyspot ( hitmyspot@aussie.zone ) 
      2·
      2 years ago

      I ownder if its a tactic to get people, or mainly businesses to upgrade no so they are still in the windows ecosystem. They won’t want to pay for windows, so making it seem like their computer is outdated and should be upgraded is not a bad strategy. If a movement of converting to Linux starts, many users might leave. For good.

    • jkrtn ( jkrtn@lemmy.ml ) 
      9·
      2 years ago

      I understand how it is possible for an OS to interrupt one’s use of one’s own computer to beg for money or to install spyware. I don’t understand how such an OS would still have users.

      • floofloof ( floofloof@lemmy.ca ) English
        8·
        2 years ago

        If I didn’t have to use it for work, and if Ableton Live made a Linux version, I’d never use Windows again. Every single activity is interrupted by messages that are effectively adverts for things you’re not interested in. The Start menu still doesn’t work after 29 years of development. Searching for a file is ridiculously slow and doesn’t find the file. Everything else is also slow, all the time. I have given up trying to arrange my desktop icons because they always go back to the same position they’ve been stuck in for months. All the applications hang, and the whole system has frequent unresponsive moments where God knows what it’s doing but it’s nothing I asked for. I dual boot into Linux and it feels like an oasis of peace.

        • jkrtn ( jkrtn@lemmy.ml ) 
          6·
          2 years ago

          Oh yeah, sorry, didn’t mean to rag on people that have to work with it. I think we’re all frustrated that it’s still so pervasive even though it gets worse every year.

  • AcidOctopus ( AcidOctopus@lemmy.ml ) 
    16·
    2 years ago

    I see Linux in my future, as I just don’t have the cash for a new rig.

    I have to be careful though, as it’s my family PC, and the rest of my family aren’t going to tolerate much of a learning curve. It really needs to just work out of the box.

    Considering Zorin OS. Hopefully I can get it on my SSD next to Windows so I can dual-boot for a while to test the water…

  • anothermember ( anothermember@lemmy.zip ) 
    12·
    2 years ago

    I’m used to hearing about how a lot of people are put off of Lemmy because of all the “Linux” people on it, “people pushing Linux”, “elitists”, etc.

    And yet I see something like this and think “are we not supposed to give good advice?”.

    If is the kind of thing you want for your computing then go for it.

  • casmael ( casmael@lemm.ee ) 
    12·
    2 years ago

    I think now that I’ve moved most of my photo editing to my Mac and steam has propelled gaming on Linux into ‘very reasonable’ territory, it might be time to actually just ditch the ol’ windows. Only issue is I have an nvidia gpu atm unforch.

  • Zerush ( Zerush@lemmy.ml ) 
    9·
    2 years ago

    At least in the EU until now no such PopUps, but it’s hilarious, that I can’t update to W11 in a 3 years old Laptop, at least not without cheats, only because my Graphic Card, AMD Radeon with 2+1 GB isn’t in the MS list, not for other reasons.