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- windows@sopuli.xyz
- Snot Flickerman ( @SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English81•5 months ago
I have never received one of these screens with this One Neat Trick:
I disabled the TPM in UEFI settings.
Beautiful.
- DoucheBagMcSwag ( @DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 9•5 months ago
This is the fucking way
- VeganCheesecake ( @VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 5•5 months ago
Aren’t you using the TPM for full disk encryption, though? Or are you entering your BitLocker Password at every boot?
- EngineerGaming ( @EngineerGaming@feddit.nl ) 8•5 months ago
I use full-disk encryption on my Debian, and I honestly don’t see what’s wrong with entering your passphrase on boot.
- VeganCheesecake ( @VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 1•5 months ago
There doesn’t have to be anything wrong with it, though I seem to remember that BitLocker isn’t all that difficult to break if your passphrase isn’t long enough. I just found it a bit weird because unlocking via TPM very much feels like the standard solution under Windows.
- voxel ( @vox@sopuli.xyz ) 2•5 months ago
also windows 10 requires tpm for passkeys
- melpomenesclevage ( @melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee ) 4•5 months ago
In the 90s this was hacker shit. You’d do this shit to, like, break into the pentagon or something.
Fucking cringe cyberpunk; everybody’s a hacker, because theres no other way to see your fucking calendar.
- frogmint ( @frogmint@beehaw.org ) 2•5 months ago
Aren’t these screens from the article specifically for unsupported devices, like those without TPM?
- Mane25 ( @Mane25@feddit.uk ) English2•5 months ago
Is it not disgraceful that you have to use a trick so some third party company doesn’t install software you don’t want on your hardware? I think that’s appalling!
- tooLikeTheNope ( @tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml ) 48•5 months ago
Got to say they convinced me at last and I finally upgraded.
…to linuxNever.Going.Back.
- SynopsisTantilize ( @SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee ) 14•5 months ago
Yep. The other day it rewrote a registry key that prevented these pop ups. I’m out. Debating which Debian distro to go to now.
- melpomenesclevage ( @melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee ) 7•5 months ago
Debian is the slow reliable. Go with mint for easy, Debian for completely foss, pop! OS for eaay nvidia drivers, or Ubuntu for… Uh… Ubuntu.
- jkrtn ( @jkrtn@lemmy.ml ) 6•5 months ago
Ubuntu is good for if you want Snap packages forced on you. It is a shame, Ubuntu was my first distro, but I don’t think I would ever use it again.
- floofloof ( @floofloof@lemmy.ca ) English2•5 months ago
I recommend OpenSuse Tumbleweed if you want stuff to be very up to date (we got the xz backdoor first! yay!) but also easy and stable. And KDE Plasma is pretty good these days. Linux Mint is also good but it’s a bit slower with the updates.
- tooLikeTheNope ( @tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml ) 5•5 months ago
I tried a few, Fedora, LMDE(Linux Mint Debian Edition), and EndeavourOS.
I’d say LMDE if you want a rock solid system, being fundamentally Debian Stable with Mint treatment for user friendliness, or Endeavour if you want bleeding edge updates (and of course bragging rights to join the meme by saying “BTW I use arch”)
- JasonDJ ( @JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ) 3•5 months ago
I gotta say, I’ve distro hopped a lot over the years…finally caved to try EndeavorOS and it’s my new favorite, if only for the AUR.
- RandomException ( @RandomException@sopuli.xyz ) 2•5 months ago
Same! I started with Ubuntu back in the days and was shocked how weirdly bad it is nowadays when I was forced to use it at my current project with the client’s laptop. I mean the happy path is still all fun and easy but after having Ubuntu installed, it’s almost like a Windows experience trying to get stuff installed vs. having AUR available :D
- Revan343 ( @Revan343@lemmy.ca ) 1•5 months ago
I like Mint
- RandomException ( @RandomException@sopuli.xyz ) 2•5 months ago
I have to give huge thank you to Valve for making gaming on Linux actually a valid option. I’ve been mainly a Linux user since 2006 but always had to have a dual-boot setup for gaming. Seeing the progress on Proton, I decided a year or two ago that Windows 10 was going to be the last one I’ll have on my PC and since my SSD died a couple of months ago, I didn’t even bother to preserve the Win10 installation anymore.
Funnily enough on my front page, the next link below this post was “Microsoft starts testing ads in the Windows 11 Start Menu”. I think that pretty much sums it up why I don’t want to even try to mess with the thing anymore. It’s been a good run and Windows has improved A LOT since XP days but oh dear god all the data harvesting nowadays…
- Moonrise2473 ( @Moonrise2473@feddit.it ) 35•5 months ago
If only they didn’t intentionally give up compatibility with 250 million PCs by introducing artificial CPU requirements, then adoption rate would be higher…
But blackrock and vanguard (they control ~15% of Microsoft, Intel, AMD) really needed to increase their profits by selling more CPUs…
Also it didn’t help that until October 2023 the taskbar was completely broken and unusable, people like me forbid the installation of the os in the company for that reason alone
- voxel ( @vox@sopuli.xyz ) 13•5 months ago
the taskbar still broken and unusable.
icons straight up disappear when you switch virtual desktops using the touchpad, tray icons sometimes don’t show up, messing with some things can cause an explorer crash - Ashtefere ( @Ashtefere@aussie.zone ) 4•5 months ago
Lin…UX?!
- melpomenesclevage ( @melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee ) 4•5 months ago
Yeah, maybe a few delusional shit heads making insane decisions for absurd reasons completely insulated from reality by a thousand layers of abstraction isnt good and we should just count anything run this way as already dead?
- icesentry ( @icesentry@lemmy.ca ) 3•5 months ago
What do you mean by the taskbar being unusable? I used it on my windows 11 laptop way before october 2023.
- Moonrise2473 ( @Moonrise2473@feddit.it ) 11•5 months ago
Combined icons make the computer unusable for who has multiple windows open from the same application.
For example if you constantly have to switch between 5 excel files you can’t directly click on which you need
It’s the reason I can’t stand MacOS at all
- VeganCheesecake ( @VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 6•5 months ago
I mean, not defending Win11 here, it has lots of other issues, but I’d just put each excel sheet on a different virtual desktop and switch with the keyboard. Always felt that clicking was a bit inefficient anyway.
- Vlyn ( @Vlyn@lemmy.zip ) English3•5 months ago
Well, you can’t directly click, but all you need to do is hover for half a second, then click the window you want (which open up above). It’s a non-issue.
- onlinepersona ( @onlinepersona@programming.dev ) English6•5 months ago
Is the order always the same? But still, it’s quite human to be disturbed by it. A website that loads longer than 200ms is perceived as slow. 500ms on a desktop action is considered slow, so it is an issue for some. Can’t just dismiss it because for you it’s fine. Not everybody’s you.
- Vlyn ( @Vlyn@lemmy.zip ) English4•5 months ago
I mean I didn’t check how long it actually takes, it’s not 500ms.
It opens quick, but I can’t find the default value (you can change the behavior via registry), but it’s definitely less than half a second. Especially when you’re already hovering down there it appears near instant for me.
And let’s be honest: The only reason why multiple icons worked back in the day was because the name of the open workbook was next to it. So you had “(Excel) My Workbook 123.xlsx” in your taskbar. Which ended up as a mess when you had several programs open. Now you have one Excel icon, you hover over it and you see all your open workbooks as a preview so you select the one you want. It’s definitely cleaner.
- icesentry ( @icesentry@lemmy.ca ) 2•5 months ago
It keeps the order in which it was open, it’s not 500ms, and we can certainly dismiss someone that says something is unusable when it is in fact usable just not in the way they like.
- onlinepersona ( @onlinepersona@programming.dev ) English1•5 months ago
- icesentry ( @icesentry@lemmy.ca ) 2•5 months ago
Sure, that’s not ideal, but it’s far from unusable. I’ve used the combined icons since windows 10 wqs released and never had any issues. It works fine for me.
- hangukdise ( @hangukdise@lemmy.ml ) 3•5 months ago
I don’t mind upgrading but windows won’t allow me… MacOS looks not bad. Or linux
- rx8geek ( @rx8geek@aussie.zone ) 3•5 months ago
Uhh, Vanguard and Blackrock are ETF providers, those stocks are assets under management
They don’t “control” anything about those companies.
- Moobythegoldensock ( @Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee ) 24•5 months ago
“We tried asking. We tried begging. We tried bullying. We even tried tricking people into upgrading. We tried everything short of actually making a usable OS!”
- jkrtn ( @jkrtn@lemmy.ml ) 9•5 months ago
I understand how it is possible for an OS to interrupt one’s use of one’s own computer to beg for money or to install spyware. I don’t understand how such an OS would still have users.
- floofloof ( @floofloof@lemmy.ca ) English8•5 months ago
If I didn’t have to use it for work, and if Ableton Live made a Linux version, I’d never use Windows again. Every single activity is interrupted by messages that are effectively adverts for things you’re not interested in. The Start menu still doesn’t work after 29 years of development. Searching for a file is ridiculously slow and doesn’t find the file. Everything else is also slow, all the time. I have given up trying to arrange my desktop icons because they always go back to the same position they’ve been stuck in for months. All the applications hang, and the whole system has frequent unresponsive moments where God knows what it’s doing but it’s nothing I asked for. I dual boot into Linux and it feels like an oasis of peace.
- jkrtn ( @jkrtn@lemmy.ml ) 6•5 months ago
Oh yeah, sorry, didn’t mean to rag on people that have to work with it. I think we’re all frustrated that it’s still so pervasive even though it gets worse every year.
- tetris11 ( @tetris11@lemmy.ml ) 6•5 months ago
“Please people, please… just give us your money. We might leave you alone after that. For a while.”
- dan1101 ( @dan1101@lemm.ee ) 3•5 months ago
Surely more AI will fix it!
- SpaceCadet ( @SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz ) English19•5 months ago
Microsoft has 18 months to convince folks to upgrade.
They’ll be lucky if I boot my Windows 10 partition between now and 18 months.
- jjjalljs ( @jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ) 17•5 months ago
My computer doesn’t meet the requirements so I guess I’ll just not.
- AcidOctopus ( @AcidOctopus@lemmy.ml ) 16•5 months ago
I see Linux in my future, as I just don’t have the cash for a new rig.
I have to be careful though, as it’s my family PC, and the rest of my family aren’t going to tolerate much of a learning curve. It really needs to just work out of the box.
Considering Zorin OS. Hopefully I can get it on my SSD next to Windows so I can dual-boot for a while to test the water…
- Gormadt ( @Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 2•5 months ago
I use Linux Mint on a bunch of my machines
In general it’s pretty painless
I still have a Windows machine but I’m hoping to fix that soon
- nossaquesapao ( @nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br ) 13•5 months ago
I see they’re getting desperate. One year and half to eol, and still, according to statcounter, 69% of the world uses windows 10.
- HobbitFoot ( @HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ) English10•5 months ago
I would have upgraded if they didn’t include the UI changes. I don’t know why Microsoft keeps trying to make these big UI changes given that they have a built-in audience of power users that have optimized since XP.
- Hadriscus ( @Hadriscus@lemm.ee ) 3•5 months ago
I think it’s a way to justify the update. It’s probably really about telemetry and hardware control, but normies see the centered taskbar and subconciously go “this must be new technology”
- Sianna ( @Sianna@feddit.de ) 5•5 months ago
…nice
- anothermember ( @anothermember@lemmy.zip ) 12•5 months ago
I’m used to hearing about how a lot of people are put off of Lemmy because of all the “Linux” people on it, “people pushing Linux”, “elitists”, etc.
And yet I see something like this and think “are we not supposed to give good advice?”.
If is the kind of thing you want for your computing then go for it.
- Kayn ( @HKayn@dormi.zone ) 3•5 months ago
It’s unsolicited advice.
It would be like you posting about a minor annoyance with Minecraft, and then having multiple people tell you to ditch it and play Minetest instead.
- anothermember ( @anothermember@lemmy.zip ) 4•5 months ago
I don’t know anything about Minecraft but if Minetest is an appropriate replacement without that minor annoyance I would suggest that’s solicited advice.
- wuphysics87 ( @wuphysics87@lemmy.ml ) 2•5 months ago
That’s not an apt comparison
- casmael ( @casmael@lemm.ee ) 12•5 months ago
I think now that I’ve moved most of my photo editing to my Mac and steam has propelled gaming on Linux into ‘very reasonable’ territory, it might be time to actually just ditch the ol’ windows. Only issue is I have an nvidia gpu atm unforch.
- utopiah ( @utopiah@lemmy.ml ) 1•5 months ago
Only issue is I have an nvidia gpu atm unforch.
Not an issue, been gaming with a 2080ti and 4090 for a while now, just works for me, including in VR on “Windows only” games.
- utopiah ( @utopiah@lemmy.ml ) 1•5 months ago
Edit : link to a (strange) thread with a bit more detail https://lemmy.ml/comment/10195095 but the TL;DR being that NVIDIA drivers do work and ProtonDB literally “changed the game” during those very last years.
- AlexWIWA ( @AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml ) English11•5 months ago
They could convince me to update by making windows 11 not suck.
- Zerush ( @Zerush@lemmy.ml ) 9•5 months ago
At least in the EU until now no such PopUps, but it’s hilarious, that I can’t update to W11 in a 3 years old Laptop, at least not without cheats, only because my Graphic Card, AMD Radeon with 2+1 GB isn’t in the MS list, not for other reasons.
- rfvizarra ( @rfvizarra@lemmy.ml ) 4•5 months ago
I’m in the EU and yesterday I booted in Windows 10 and I got one :(
- Zerush ( @Zerush@lemmy.ml ) 2•5 months ago
At least not in my, maybe I’ve gut Windows from all telemetries, notifications (except for updates) and other crap and services. If the Pop Ups persists, install the Optimizer (FOSS), which can help you to give it a kick in the ass.
- rfvizarra ( @rfvizarra@lemmy.ml ) 1•5 months ago
Thanks!
- LucidBoi ( @LucidBoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 9•5 months ago
Installed Zorin OS the same day I got the full-screen prompt.
- Grant_M ( @Grant_M@lemmy.ca ) English2•5 months ago
The latest Zorin is slick. Love it.
- Asafum ( @Asafum@feddit.nl ) 7•5 months ago
Pretty much the only thing I use my PC for is gaming so it really sucks that I can’t just dump them for Linux…
I don’t want some games. I don’t want to have something I’ve been hyped about be out of reach for God knows how long just because Linux support is crap as the market share is so low, but man do i hate Microsoft…
- Crozekiel ( @Crozekiel@lemmy.zip ) English14•5 months ago
Gaming on Linux is really not as bad as all that unless you play a lot of games with invasive anti-cheat; which honestly, even if you never try Linux and stick to windows, I’d recommend avoiding or at least having a separate windows install for. I’m not a fan of having to install a rootkit on my computer that constantly monitors everything I do just to prove to some mega-corp I’m an honest player (especially considering how poorly even those work to stop cheaters).
I’d highly recommend anyone upset with microsoft to at least setup dual boot with one of the popular gaming specific Linux distos and trying it out. Even if you did a few years ago, it has really come a long way in the last few years.
- Zerush ( @Zerush@lemmy.ml ) 2•5 months ago
I love The Dark Mod, a great envolving game at the level of commercial ones, it’s 100% free with a great community and works fine in Windows, Linux and Mac. A game for Years with currently more than 170 community made missions, more every few month.
- Grant_M ( @Grant_M@lemmy.ca ) English7•5 months ago
Upgrade to Linux! :D
- laurelraven ( @laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 5•5 months ago
That’s what i did and with very few issues (especially compared to what i had with Windows) I’ve not regretted it at all