- cross-posted to:
- pcgaming@lemmy.ca
- gaming@lemmy.zip
This also applies to Valorant. I know a lot of people look down on both games, but it’s still unfortunate for Linux to lose access to such a popular game.
I thought this part was particularly interesting:
Half of anti-cheat is making sure the environment hasn’t been tampered with, and this is extremely hard on Linux by design. Any backdoors we leave open for it are ones [cheat] developers will immediately leverage for cheats
- golden_zealot ( @golden_zealot@lemmy.ml ) English45•6 months ago
That’s ok I don’t really want spyware anyway.
- inlandempire ( @inlandempire@jlai.lu ) 29•6 months ago
Their post is a bunch of PR hidden by funnyspeak while not addressing people’s concerns in any way. The worst is that they’re officially ditching LoL on linux because reasons, they’re forcing the anti cheat on windows BUT they can’t implement it on MacOS because Apple won’t allow it
- teawrecks ( @teawrecks@sopuli.xyz ) 10•6 months ago
Their post is a bunch of PR hidden by funnyspeak
I disagree, I think they said pretty plainly that they rely on security by obscurity, which is fundamentally at odds with an open platform that gives you control over your hardware. They’re not wrong, they can take their shitty anti-cheat arms race and shove it.
- Kayn ( @HKayn@dormi.zone ) 4•6 months ago
How are they ditching LoL on Linux if they’ve never officially supported it in the first place?
- Miss Brainfarts ( @miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 19•6 months ago
Linux only grants access inside user space, so yeah. Says a lot about any game that refuses to adapt to that
- loiakdsf ( @mr_pip@discuss.tchncs.de ) 12•6 months ago
I get your point, but that is only 50% of the article. 800 players simply don’t justify the effort of porting everything to Linux and risk more cheaters. Issues with cheaters affect the entire playerbase, not just those 800.
I’d like more Linux compatibility in large games as much as the next guy, but I get the justification not to do it.
- Miss Brainfarts ( @miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 5•6 months ago
Is Vanguard actually that much more effective than say, the EAC that we have on Linux?
- vinhill ( @vinhill@feddit.de ) 2•6 months ago
Well LoL has no official Linux support, so a low current number of users is no indication of the size of the potential Linux player base.
- loiakdsf ( @mr_pip@discuss.tchncs.de ) 1•6 months ago
- this plays in their favor
- clicking install in lutris rather than just downloading is not much more effort for the end user. Beit supported or not, a rather tech savvy group such as linux users can handle that obstacle and thus the numbers will not change drastically (just my asdumption)
- RenardDesMers ( @RenardDesMers@lemmy.ml ) 10•6 months ago
I enjoyed playing TFT but this whole thing made me ditch LoL altogether some months ago. And cheaters on LoL are so rare…
According to the original Riot post, 1 in 15 games has a cheater, and in some regions it’s 1 in 5 games.
But valorant has the same kernel anticheat, and has rampant cheating. So I don’t think the new anticheat will actually help.
- RenardDesMers ( @RenardDesMers@lemmy.ml ) 3•6 months ago
Depends also on their definition of cheater. If they count the mindless weak bots that keep playing just to farm currency in non ranked or if they only count serious cheats.
- bionicjoey ( @bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ) 1•6 months ago
Tbf they’re probably rare because of the rootkit anticheat right?
- RenardDesMers ( @RenardDesMers@lemmy.ml ) 8•6 months ago
No, they haven’t deployed the anticheat yet I think
- bionicjoey ( @bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ) 2•6 months ago
Oh, I see. Haven’t been following this story that closely tbh.
- warm ( @warm@kbin.earth ) 9•6 months ago
League just doesn’t have that many ‘traditional’ cheaters and the game lends itself to server-side AC way more than most. The cheaters in League are more often win-traders at high elos and smurfs in low elos. Also lots of feeding and trolling. So I have no idea why they are adding Vanguard, a good reason to stop playing the game though.
- Zink ( @Zink@pawb.social ) English8•6 months ago
Real answer: too lazy to port / not worth enough to port
- Contend6248 ( @Contend6248@feddit.de ) 2•6 months ago
Even with premium Linux support, who in their right mind would run that shit with kernel access
- Ulu-Mulu-no-die ( @ulu_mulu@lemm.ee ) English5•6 months ago
World of Warcraft has its own anticheat that works on Linux no problem, if Blizzard can do it why Riot can’t? It’s not that WoW has more players than LOL so it could be justified, it’s actually the opposite.
- I Cast Fist ( @ICastFist@programming.dev ) 1•6 months ago
It’s probably because WoW isn’t as competitive as LoL or Valorant, so Riot’s games need to be more aggressive in figuring whether someone is cheating or not. A more apt comparison would be with Valve’s Dota2 and Counter Strike
- ulkesh ( @ulkesh@beehaw.org ) English4•6 months ago
When they come out with a game that even remotely interests me, then I’ll get my pitchfork. Until then, I’ll continue playing games that work perfectly fine on Linux, which is nearly every other one thanks to Wine, Valve+Proton, Glorious Eggroll, and many others in this community.
- ReakDuck ( @ReakDuck@lemmy.ml ) 1•6 months ago
I want to spread the love I have with Linux. But its hard when friends love League of Legends
- ulkesh ( @ulkesh@beehaw.org ) English3•6 months ago
Look on the bright side…you have friends!! But yeah, I get it. Most people I know barely know what an operating system is. Surprisingly my mother knows and enjoys Linux (as a normal user) and she’s in her 60s!
- KindaABigDyl ( @KindaABigDyl@programming.dev ) 4•6 months ago
So no 2XKO? :(
I was so excited
- kingthrillgore ( @KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ) 4•6 months ago
No sweaty, angry, sexist, racist, sub-human filth League gamers on Linux? What a shame. How will Linux users ever recover knowing the trash will never leave the dumpster? I for one am completely devastated.
/s
- TGhost [She/Her] ( @TGhost@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 3•6 months ago
You find it interresting, For the backdoors right ?
- shaytan ( @shaytan@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 2•6 months ago
Oh no, how will I get spyware into my pc then? What a shame