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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/13875589
Ruling: Thumbprint scan is like a “blood draw or fingerprint taken at booking.”
- shortwavesurfer ( @shortwavesurfer@monero.town ) English13•29 days ago
US court can go fuck a duck cuz I’m putting my phone in lockdown mode and will not be opening it. If the gangsters want the data on the device, they’re going to have to crack it themselves.
- snooggums ( @snooggums@midwest.social ) English8•30 days ago
It’s like that except fo the fact that ut us not at all like that.
It is forcing someone to grant access to information that requires a search warrant.
- xia ( @xia@lemmy.sdf.org ) English7•29 days ago
The solution is so obvious that I suspect a conspiracy. Just allow OTHER actions to be performed based on the finger used. Maybe it’s unlock, maybe it’s power-off, maybe siren, maybe factory-reset.
- bitwolf ( @bitwolf@lemmy.one ) English2•29 days ago
I’ve been looking forever for an android ROM that does this. Base it on fingerprints and pins.
Surprised no one has used it to streamline multiple profiles for shared devices either.
- Archon of the Valley ( @ChallengeApathy@infosec.pub ) English5•29 days ago
Exactly why I refuse to use biometrics. I like exercising my constitutional rights, especially in this age when they’re constantly trying to restrict our rights.
- PeriodicallyPedantic ( @PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ) English4•30 days ago
They’ve already captured you, which means they’ve captured your brain, which means they’ve captured your passwords and location of any keys. Therefore they can force you to unlock anything they want. /S
That’s the thing. You don’t have to give the password, but under this you will be forced to give the “fingerprint” or face consequences.
- PeriodicallyPedantic ( @PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ) English4•30 days ago
I understood. I was using satire to apply the same justifications to passwords and keys, which currently are protected, afaict.
- gregorum ( @gregorum@lemm.ee ) English4•30 days ago
On iPhones, if you have Face ID enabled, pressing the power button 5 times puts in lockdown mode. This disables the usb port, Face ID, contactless payments, and requires the 6-digit pin to unlock everything. I don’t know if android phones have something similar.
It’s a neat trick for when you think you might get into a “situation”. Also, the cameras still work.
It’s only helpful where investigation is not worth the time/cost. Unless you use Lockdown mode, they can do full extraction of iPhones via Cellebrite.
- gregorum ( @gregorum@lemm.ee ) English7•30 days ago
That’s the thing about lockdown mode— it’s super-quick to enable of you get into a situation, and you can still use your device with it turned on to, for example, video record an incident that will live-stream or sync to the cloud for later remote retrieval.
And with the usb port disabled, the cops won’t be extracting anything.
It’s not fast, but I think we’re talking about different things. You are probably talking about SOS mode. The Lockdown Mode requires navigating through a bunch of settings and entering your passcode to enable it.
And port is just one way Cellbrite works. It has many modes which exploit different weaknesses to gain access. Apple finally fixed the biggest one, by finally encrypting the iCloud backup. Before that, all the security measures were defeated by Apple itself, by making a copy of the whole device and leaving it unencrypted…
P.S. Apple only recently were forced to use Universal Serial Bus (USB). So most people are still using Lightning port (Proprietary Serial Bus).
- gregorum ( @gregorum@lemm.ee ) English3•29 days ago
Oh, you’re right, I was confusing what it’s called with something else. But 5x clicking the power button locks the phone down in a basic way, enough to block Cellbrite from breaking in with a usb tool. And having iCloud advanced encryption enabled keeps them out of there, too.
- bitwolf ( @bitwolf@lemmy.one ) English1•29 days ago
Android also requires the pin after a few attempts and even when changing your location far enough.
- sverit ( @sverit@feddit.de ) English1•29 days ago
Yes, you can enable a similar option on Android, which can be activated when holding down the power button.
- huginn ( @huginn@feddit.it ) English2•29 days ago
Power + volume up is usually how you do it I believe. Holding power down usually just activates an assistant.
- blindsight ( @blindsight@beehaw.org ) English2•29 days ago
On my Sony phone, holding power with the screen on brings up the power menu, which includes Lockdown mode.
- huginn ( @huginn@feddit.it ) English4•29 days ago
Yeah I don’t think that’s the default on Samsung or Google phones. Could be wrong.
- blindsight ( @blindsight@beehaw.org ) English1•29 days ago
I might have changed that setting. I don’t like Google Assistant on my phone since it interferes with my Google Home devices.
- sverit ( @sverit@feddit.de ) English1•29 days ago
How do you shut down your phone? :)
- huginn ( @huginn@feddit.it ) English1•28 days ago
Power + Volume Up?
- bitwolf ( @bitwolf@lemmy.one ) English2•29 days ago
They mean to press and hold the power button. Which reveals this menu