It started with notebooks, but that wasn’t the master plan.

  •  Midnitte   ( @Midnitte@beehaw.org ) 
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    After five years building laptops, what might Framework add to the portfolio? Patel won’t say — I only get the barest hints, no matter how many different ways I ask.

    Thanks for the nothing burger?

  • Please, do phones! Not only are far too many millions of phones being discarded every year, but it’s such a large consumer base (literally everyone) and the current offerings really offer nothing sustainable. It’s also a product category that’s perfect for modularity!

    Yes, ok, Fairphone. They don’t sell them anywhere outside of Europe.

    Other products like printers, tablets, monitors, TVs, etc. just have too long of a product life cycle to consider them as their next project. I can’t see a huge customer base of people wanting to repair their monitor or printer (no real upgrade path for Framework to offer here).

  • Framework tackling phones is useless if they go the mainstream SoC route (Qualcomm, Mediatek) as they don’t have the software team needed to make those work properly (I would argue alot of handset manufactures don’t either). From what I hear you need a hell of software team to “fix” the garbage Android SDK released for those chips. Most importantly is if they go the closed mainstream SoC route which have EoL SDK support dates then what’s the point of building a durable repairable phone at a higher price point when you have to throw it out at the same as everyone else?

    I want to see Framework enter the Linux phone market using “open” chips like Rockchip alongside Pine64’s Pinephone (Pro) and the Librem 5 as I think they would more likely have the funds, dev time and community support to help bring say PostmarketOS into a usable state then have to rework the SDK. This way the phone’s EoL date would be determined be the local phone infrastructure shutdowns. A much longer amount of time.

  • This is the best summary I could come up with:


    That’s one of the biggest reasons it just raised another $18 million in funding — it wants to expand beyond the laptop into “additional product categories.”

    Framework CEO Nirav Patel tells me that has always been the plan and that the company originally had other viable ideas beyond laptops, too.

    Framework might choose an “equally difficult” category or might instead try something “a bit smaller and simpler to execute, streamlined now that we have all this infrastructure.”

    (Patel recently suggested to Jason Carman that Framework might adapt its marketing to reach more everyday audiences.)

    The company’s $9 million seed round paid for the original 13-inch laptop design, which has carried on for three generations of components.

    Today, Framework has about 50 employees, and it plans to expand to 60 before the end of the year, with “a bit of additional team growth” in 2025.


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  • Honestly I had considered buying a framework but with that article… I think a thinkpad will do for the next 4 years at least Lenovo had figured out how to not get bankrupt.

    I don’t think that will end well. Don’t start good things and drive it into a wall please :(