- cerement ( @cerement@slrpnk.net ) 29•7 months ago
- BarqsHasBite ( @someguy3@lemmy.ca ) English5•7 months ago
“An apartment tower?!?!? That’s cruel and unusual punishment!1!1” /s
- jarfil ( @jarfil@beehaw.org ) 2•7 months ago
You joke, but I’ve recently seen that exact sentiment on a (Facebook) post about “too many 2-storey houses together, where are their lawns!1!1” 🙄
- shufflerofrocks ( @shufflerofrocks@beehaw.org ) 2•7 months ago
Imagine the whiplash I got, when I went online and saw people hating on three storied building with their own gardens, and calling them commie blocks, acting like it was the greatest indignity to live in them. Yikes!
- BarqsHasBite ( @someguy3@lemmy.ca ) English2•7 months ago
Not joking.
- ahornsirup ( @ahornsirup@sopuli.xyz ) 2•7 months ago
Not pictured: systemic and brutal oppression of any hint of even unorganised opposition.
You Americans really need to take a look at the socialist countries you’re extolling, life in them was genuinely terrifying. Keep your nose down, saying anything remotely critical in front of the wrong person could completely ruin your life, and the lives of your friends and family as well.
- The Dark Lord ☑️ ( @TheRaven@lemmy.ca ) 13•7 months ago
Ah yes, Norway. The most oppressed nation on earth.
I think you have socialism confused with communism.
- Vodulas [they/them] ( @Vodulas@beehaw.org ) 11•7 months ago
I think you have communism confused with totalitarianism
- The Dark Lord ☑️ ( @TheRaven@lemmy.ca ) 5•7 months ago
I didn’t want to confuse them. One small step of understanding at a time.
- ahornsirup ( @ahornsirup@sopuli.xyz ) 1•7 months ago
Norway is not and never was socialist.
Edit: on reflection we are squabbling over definitions here. Seems rather pointless, and I didn’t mean to be as … aggressive as I probably came across. I’ve just seen more than my share of people on Lemmy genuinely advocating for USSR style systems, so I probably overreacted a bit.
- The Dark Lord ☑️ ( @TheRaven@lemmy.ca ) 9•7 months ago
I get it. Generally people pushing for socialism aren’t pushing to be the USSR. Really what we mean is “Capitalism with really strong socialist safety nets”.
- LoamImprovement ( @LoamImprovement@beehaw.org ) 2•7 months ago
“Capitalism where you don’t die if you can’t produce” is the goal. “Capitalism where you’re still comfortable if you can’t produce” would be better, but I can’t imagine it happening in my lifetime.
- Vodulas [they/them] ( @Vodulas@beehaw.org ) 6•7 months ago
There are a lot of tankies on here since Lemmy was created by self described tankies, so I get it. Most folks on Beehaw are much less aggressive and don’t believe that state sponsored violence is a good thing
- LoamImprovement ( @LoamImprovement@beehaw.org ) 8•7 months ago
Gee, let me see if I can form a mental picture - You mean the kind of systemic and brutal oppression that goes on today against anyone speaking poorly of the ongoing genocide fueled by the AMIC? Or anyone who’s too black for a cop’s liking? Or anyone violating the ‘anti-camping’ laws popping up in cities recently? That kind of systemic and brutal oppression?
I got news for you - Life in America is genuinely terrifying. I’m deep in debt and two paychecks away from getting evicted, most people don’t even have that much of a cushion. Eli Lilly sells the medicine I need in order to live for $350 a vial. If I don’t keep my nose down to the grindstone, it will, in fact, completely ruin what life I have left, and the same is also true of my friends and family. Don’t fucking lecture me on dystopia, I know exactly what it is.
- ahornsirup ( @ahornsirup@sopuli.xyz ) 2•7 months ago
So the protestors are tortured until they confess to bogus terrorism charges? Locked up under horrible conditions in labour camps in Alaska for years and decades? Do you risk imprisonment for merely saying to someone you thought you could trust (like, say, your children) that they should be allowed to protest? Because then, yeah, that kind of brutal oppression.
Of course there were some things generally done better in the USSR, thing is, you don’t need a fucking socialist dictatorship for universal healthcare, social security or public education. Many, many capitalist countries offer all of them.
- Devi ( @Devi@beehaw.org ) English1•7 months ago
I think you’re confused between which part of a socialist dictatorship is socialism and which part is dictatorship.
Most, if not all countries have a level of socialism, US has less than say France, who have less than Norway, etc.
- BarqsHasBite ( @someguy3@lemmy.ca ) English10•7 months ago
Mentioning density will get you that reaction.
- Annoyed_🦀 ( @Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc ) 6•7 months ago
- BarqsHasBite ( @someguy3@lemmy.ca ) English2•7 months ago
This is heavy doc.
Density?
- Rentlar ( @Rentlar@lemmy.ca ) 20•7 months ago
- BarqsHasBite ( @someguy3@lemmy.ca ) English4•7 months ago
That’s so good you can make a whole nother post. (More parking lots though.)