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 joojmachine   ( @joojmachine@lemmy.ml )  to Linux@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 years ago

Raspberry Pi Connect: an easy-to-use way to access your RPi remotely, using just a web browser

www.raspberrypi.com

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Raspberry Pi Connect: an easy-to-use way to access your RPi remotely, using just a web browser

www.raspberrypi.com

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  •  lemmyvore   ( @lemmyvore@feddit.nl ) 
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    I’m not sure what this offers vs just using any screen sharing method, or SSH, with a mesh VPN.

    •  giloronfoo   ( @giloronfoo@beehaw.org ) 
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      I think it offers not having to know enough about each of those pieces to pick one of each and set them up.

      •  ProgrammingSocks   ( @ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social ) 
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        If you’re using a Pi I don’t see why you’d want to avoid learning Linux. Setting up and connecting to SSH servers is an essential skill for anybody doing anything on Linux that isn’t purely desktop use.

        •  giloronfoo   ( @giloronfoo@beehaw.org ) 
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          While I generally agree that they should, I disagree that they should have to.

          SSH and then some sort of VPN for remote terminal access isn’t too bad.

          It has been a decade or more since I tried setting up VNC, but I never could figure out how to connect to an existing X session. Has that setup gotten better?

          •  TigrisMorte   ( @TigrisMorte@kbin.social ) 
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            Found the Zombie-bot rights supporter!

            •  giloronfoo   ( @giloronfoo@beehaw.org ) 
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              Hehe.

              Won’t this new service help avoid that for users who haven’t figured out how to safely expose a system to the Internet?

              •  TigrisMorte   ( @TigrisMorte@kbin.social ) 
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                There is no such “help”. Either you learn what is going on and how to monitor or you are simply another easy target.

      •  TigrisMorte   ( @TigrisMorte@kbin.social ) 
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        Under no circumstances should anyone have a device exposed to the Internet unless they have learned about all of those.

        •  giloronfoo   ( @giloronfoo@beehaw.org ) 
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          Isn’t that the point of the new features? Now remote access can be had without directly exposing the device to the internet?

          •  TigrisMorte   ( @TigrisMorte@kbin.social ) 
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            That is impossible. If you can log in it is exposed.

    •  Bitflip   ( @Bitflip@lemmy.ml ) 
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      The VNC server they previously bundled with raspberry pi os is not compatible with Wayland.

      •  lemmyvore   ( @lemmyvore@feddit.nl ) 
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        Do you really need to use Wayland on the Pi?

        •  pbjamm   ( @pbjamm@beehaw.org ) 
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          Like it or not Wayland is going to be the future of Desktop Linux. Preparing for that future is a good thing.

          •  lemmyvore   ( @lemmyvore@feddit.nl ) 
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            OK but it’s not ready now, objectively speaking. Don’t you think it’s a bit of a dick move from your OS to ship a version that breaks VNC and doesn’t offer an alternative?

  •  TigrisMorte   ( @TigrisMorte@kbin.social ) 
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    Just use SSH.

    •  /home/pineapplelover   ( @pineapplelover@lemm.ee ) 
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      Yeah that won’t work outside lan unless you vpn or something

      •  TigrisMorte   ( @TigrisMorte@kbin.social ) 
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        Not true. SSH works over the open Internet just fine. It is simply an attack vector. Just like Pi Connect would be. So if both are attack vectors, go with the proven technology that is well documented as to how to prevent said attack.

        •  /home/pineapplelover   ( @pineapplelover@lemm.ee ) 
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          Wait really? How? I would imagine some port forwarding or something would need to be done though.

          •  TigrisMorte   ( @TigrisMorte@kbin.social ) 
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            A: port forwarding is only required if not in a DMZ.
            B: open ports are how machines are accessed regardless of if they are forwarded or not.
            C: if you don’t understand how ports work, you have no business exposing anything.

            •  /home/pineapplelover   ( @pineapplelover@lemm.ee ) 
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              Well I have my port open in my lan but the only way to access it outside of my lan is to port forward. I don’t understand how you can say that all you need to do is open the port and the machine can be accessed.

              Same concept applies for any other service like a game server.

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