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mr_MADAFAKA ( mr_MADAFAKA@lemmy.ml )  to Linux Gaming@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago

It's Time to Bring Back the Steam Machine

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It's Time to Bring Back the Steam Machine

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mr_MADAFAKA ( mr_MADAFAKA@lemmy.ml )  to Linux Gaming@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago
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It's Time to Bring Back the Steam Machine - Steam Deck HQ
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With all the layoffs and industry volatility, I think now is a great time to consider bringing back the Steam Machine, with a few changes.
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  • wvstolzing ( walthervonstolzing@lemmy.ml ) 
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    But they’re already back! The Steam Deck is the resurrected Steam Machine.

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      It seems sort of a waste of resources to use a steam deck as a stationary device. However, I don’t think there is a really large market for a console-like steam machine.

      • wvstolzing ( walthervonstolzing@lemmy.ml ) 
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        Right; a stationary Steam Machine (upgradable, etc.) would be a desktop PC running SteamOS, which should probably remain outside the purview of Valve’s hardware division.

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          • ElectricMachman ( LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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            a streaming server

            Huh, that’s not a bad idea. Something that, say, Links to another machine running Steam…?

            /s

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          A small set-top box (essentially a Steam Deck with the screen, controls and batteries removed, and with components that don’t have the space restrictions that come with a mobile device) would still be an interesting proposition. Particularly if they partnered with the main video streaming services to port their apps across, and implemented Chromecast/AirPlay support.

          I can see a market for it, as a “Chromecast and Apple TV competitor that also plays all your games”.

          • Belgdore ( Belgdore@lemm.ee ) 
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            This is what nvidia did with the shield, and they don’t make a mobile version anymore. The set top box was just that successful.

          • NotJustForMe ( NotJustForMe@lemmy.ml ) 
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            I think that’s called a raspberry pie, essentially.

      • jsomae ( jsomae@lemmy.ml ) 
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        I use the deck almost entirely in docked mode.

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        • Trarmp ( Trarmp@feddit.nl ) 
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          What resolution do you use it at? How do activate FSR on TV resolutions? I’ve tried it once or twice but my TV is 4K, and that makes the interface and games on the Deck kinda sluggish.

          • jsomae ( jsomae@lemmy.ml ) 
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            I have an old low-res TV. Never thought about the problem you’re encountering. :s

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        Works great docked to my TV though.

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      If I’m going to game stationary, something with more than 10W of horsepower would be nice.

      I agree that the steam machine was too early. People hadn’t been fully disillusioned by the planned obsolescence of their console libraries yet. Today, in a world of $600+ consoles that are impossible to find within 2 years of their release, hardly any worthwhile exclusives, and Nintendo trying to make you repurchase the old games at full price again, a steam console could potentially sweep the industry.

      • pewgar_seemsimandroid ( pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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        steal Nintendo’s idea.

        edit: of having a dock

        • Belgdore ( Belgdore@lemm.ee ) 
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          A Steam Deck dock with a pci slot for an external graphics card would be phenomenal.

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            This seems like something people could get working today, and I’d be all about it. Though I believe there are bandwidth limitations that hamstring performance with this setup. And those external enclosures are as expensive as the GPU that goes in it.

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            and sata for no reason.

        • poVoq ( poVoq@slrpnk.net ) 
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          https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeckdock

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        I agree that the steam machine was too early.

        I don’t know how it could ever start from zero without having to go through a growing stage. I think it was just necessary to have modest expectations, and so far as I can tell, valve partnered with third party vendors and didn’t lose $$$ on it.

        Moreover, the downstream effect has been to set the foundation for the Steam Deck, which has been a smashing success. It just takes time to build up a mature ecosystem.

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    Makes sense, except for “one model”. I think it would be better to have two options.

    One low cost, thinking mini pc with integrated gpu (like steamdeck) for casual gamers, 2d gaming, old game®s, etc. Would also be perfect as “home office” PC or media consumption device.

    Second one would be bigger and stronger with dedicated GPU capable of “real” gaming and running all the modern games. Yes, powerful hardware is expensive, but serious gaming is no cheap thing…

    • Chuymatt ( Chuymatt@beehaw.org ) 
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      I want one that is PCVR ready. sigh

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    I don’t think that’s the job of Valve.
    They tried to push Linux gaming a decade ago by providing a Linux distribution optimized for gaming and invited hardware vendors to sell machines with that distri.

    At that time a gaming optimized distribution was hardly needed, so they were pioneers at the time.
    And they still maintain their SteamOS, although it is only supported on Steam Decks.

    But there has so many happened since then. Gaming Hardware is working from Day 1 with Linux. Proton - wich is supported by Valve - is supporting latest games on Linux, mostly from Day 1. At least if the developers don’t actively sabotage it.
    As a result we don’t have that one SteamOS distribution which would ultimately put us in dependece from Valve. We have several different gaming optimized distributions that you can use.

    It’s great that Valve does so much for Linux gaming, but I don’t want them to manage everything.

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      And they still maintain their SteamOS, although it is only supported on Steam Decks.

      It’s not important, but there is no connection between the original Steam OS and there new one. The original was an Ubuntu derivative, and there new one is an Arch derivative.

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    Pc with bazzite job done

    • SolarPunker ( SolarPunker@slrpnk.net ) 
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      Plus Steam Controller 2

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    For sure is now more viable than ever before it was.

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    Ctrl+F Deckard - 0 results
    does author know about the Deckard thing that Valve is supposedly working on?
    from what I understand, it will be some kind of Steam Machine with focus on In-Home Streaming.

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      No, it is supposed to be a standalone VR headset.

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        ah, ok, I was thinking of “Galileo”:
        https://www.uploadvr.com/is-valve-building-a-consolized-living-room-pc-for-wireless-vr/
        cc @Voyajer@lemmy.world

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          Well, at this point it is not entirely clear what Dekard will be. There are some details that point to it being a hybrid of both a VR optimised Qualcomm SoC and a SteamDeck like x86 system.

          They are probably experimenting with various form factors, one of which could be a belt mounted box with the x86 part that you can alternatively use as a set top box in a more stationary setting.

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