- Dem Bosain ( @DemBoSain@midwest.social ) English69•5 months ago
Now imagine if you could use FIVE digits for something as important as a bank account.
- Gobbel2000 ( @Gobbel2000@programming.dev ) English50•5 months ago
The fact that every 4-digit pin is in this picture shows quite well how these are pretty easy to crack.
- puchaczyk ( @puchaczyk@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English46•5 months ago
Now someone tell me which pin is the least common one so we all can use it to be safe.
- MystikIncarnate ( @MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ) English6•5 months ago
The ones that are showing black dots.
- Nightwatch Admin ( @nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl ) English3•5 months ago
wooosh
- MystikIncarnate ( @MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ) English4•5 months ago
I’ll take it.
- Bubs12 ( @Bubs12@lemm.ee ) English27•5 months ago
My bank just gave me a random PIN number. Choosing my own was not an option.
- Flughoernchen ( @Flughoernchen@feddit.de ) English3•5 months ago
I was able to change it, but once I found out I had the random one memorized anyways and changing would’ve been even more confusing.
- AWildMimicAppears ( @a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English19•5 months ago
damn, 0451 is blocked from view :-(
- Kolli ( @Kolli@sopuli.xyz ) English2•5 months ago
/s ?
- JackbyDev ( @JackbyDev@programming.dev ) English1•5 months ago
Fahrenheit 451
- Cethin ( @Cethin@lemmy.zip ) English4•5 months ago
I would say probably more 451 games (essentially synonymous with Immersive Sims) where there’s almost always a door with the code 0451, a reference to System Shock, where the first door uses this code as a reference to Fahrenheit 451. In the end you’re right, but it’s more a reference to this repeated reference (which is in itself a reference) than a reference to the book itself.
- Kolli ( @Kolli@sopuli.xyz ) English1•5 months ago
Oh I see now.
- gamermanh ( @gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English3•5 months ago
Also it’s the first code entered into the first door to leave the first room in the first System Shock, which is likely what thread OP was referring to.
SS did it and so a bunch of other games do it in reference, like BioShock
- Anafabula ( @Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de ) English12•5 months ago
- e8d79 ( @e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de ) English35•5 months ago
There is also the original ‘original source’. It includes a version of the picture without the labels and the axis flipped.
- TonyTonyChopper ( @TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz ) English10•5 months ago
this is so much better. Always read the x axis before the y axis
- Deebster ( @Deebster@programming.dev ) English3•5 months ago
That blog’s such a treasure! I’ve ended up on there several times over the years for completely disparate reasons like solving Countdown numbers games, etymology and explaining mathematical paradoxes.
- m0darn ( @m0darn@lemmy.ca ) English2•5 months ago
Fantastic analysis
- xia ( @xia@lemmy.sdf.org ) English12•5 months ago
I wanna know what these black dots are. Forbidden numbers? Numbers the mind cannot guess?
- FiniteBanjo ( @FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ) English7•5 months ago
Just the least used. 9805 for example. Mines dark orange and I wasn’t even trying, I just made it a physical pattern rather than a number combo.
EDIT: You know, I bet 9805 is gaining popularity in countries that use the Day/:Month/:Year format. Aug 9th 2005 is the birthday of a fair number of adults, now.
- MystikIncarnate ( @MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ) English6•5 months ago
There’s text over mine, I have no idea how I did. Judging by surrounding stuff, I think I’m ok. The numbers are fairly random.
The bank gave me the code and I just memorized it, and never bothered to change it.
Anyone have a version of this that doesn’t have anything overlayed on it?
- Rentlar ( @Rentlar@lemmy.ca ) English9•5 months ago
If the bank is going to make me memorize both a unique 10+ character password and a 4 digit pin, of course I’m going to make a dead easy PIN.
- stoy ( @stoy@lemmy.zip ) English2•5 months ago
I have never had a ststic password for my bank, is that even legal?
- ECB ( @ECB@feddit.de ) English4•5 months ago
For any sort of online banking you generally need a password.
A lot of banks these days are online only.
- stoy ( @stoy@lemmy.zip ) English1•5 months ago
I have never used a password with my bank, when I started using my online banking service I got a hardware token, I now use an app on my phone
- Mossy Feathers (They/Them) ( @MossyFeathers@pawb.social ) English6•5 months ago
Here’s a question, would it be more secure to choose a rare pin number or a pin number that is extremely common (ignoring obviously bad ones like 1234, 4321, meme numbers, numbers with four repeating digits, etc)?
Logic suggests that picking a rare number is better than a common one, because common ones are the ones that people would try first when attempting a bruteforce attack. Yet at the same time, personally if I was trying to brute force a pin, I’d start with obvious choices like 1234, 4321, four repeating numbers and meme numbers, and then switch to alternating between common-rare-common-rare if I was trying to brute force a pin number (starting with the most common and most rare). That’d mean the pin numbers that are the most secure when it comes to brute force attacks would be somewhere in the middle.
Granted, 4-digit pin numbers aren’t very secure considering there are a maximum of 10,000 combinations, and social engineering attacks like phishing mostly bypass the need to brute-force the combination entirely. As such, the effort would likely be inconsequential and pointless outside of not picking ridiculously bad pins like 1111, but I’m still curious.
- dmention7 ( @dmention7@lemm.ee ) English29•5 months ago
If your goal is to access a random account as quickly as possible, why would you ever try anything other than the next most common PIN?
It’s not like Vegas where longer odds = higher payout. Less common PIN just means any given account is less likely.to use it, and therefore it’s less likely to be correct on any given attempt.
If you look at it another way, the brightness of each square on that grid is the probability that there is a prize inside. If you wanted the most prizes as quickly as possible, picking the darkest avsilsble square is always a bad choice.
- apotheotic (she/her) ( @apotheotic@beehaw.org ) English2•5 months ago
If you have some degree of knowledge about the target, and know they are somewhat security savvy (but also somehow only have a 4 digit pin protecting this account) then it might be wise to check the pins that would be considered more secure. Or, at least, to perform some data processing on the source data for this graph which culls stupid pins (and remember the ones you cull to add to the end of your brute force approach), and from there continue with the highest probability.
- GiveOver ( @GiveOver@feddit.uk ) English5•5 months ago
I spy 2112 in there 🤘🏻
- Yer Ma ( @JoMomma@lemm.ee ) English5•5 months ago
Where is 4269 in this chart?