•  peto   ( @peto@lemm.ee ) 
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    521 month ago

    This is why I like finest as percentage of turnover like what the GDPR does. Even the big shits pay attention of you are willing to make the fines actually significant.

    Or we can just start nationalising businesses that break the law. No compensation for the leaches, just now the company serves the state. Lots of folk have no problem imprisoning and nationalising the labour of human criminals.

    If we are going to suffer states we should at least make good use of them.

    •  Neato   ( @Neato@ttrpg.network ) 
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      351 month ago

      I like that idea. If you do something illegal but minor the board has to give up a certain number of shares to the government. More for larger crimes. Do something bad enough: government nationalizes the whole company.

      With enough small crimes the government gets significant influence in shares. I bet the billionaires would hate that.

      • Something something government abuse being used to forcefully take over companies, businesses driven over seas, new avenue for corruption to flourish, etc.

        I think businesses should be held accountable too, but creating a superhighway to nationalize control of any business that steps out of line is a recipe for disaster. How long until politicians use that power to find justification for stealing whole corporations?

  • a year is a year to a rich man and a poor man alike. but a $50,000 fine is several years to a poor man and only a moment to a rich man. fines that don’t scale with income are a sneaky way to make things only legal for the rich while pretending that there is equal protection under the law.

  • At the very least, fines of this nature should be an investigation into how much money was saved/generated by breaking the rule, and then using that plus some percentage for the fine amount. Too often the fine ends up being smaller than the gain which means it’s always worth it to break the rule, especially knowing there’s a chance you might not even get caught.

  •  Rentlar   ( @Rentlar@lemmy.ca ) 
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    161 month ago

    Most often it’s the lowly employee’s ass that gets put on the line for being told to break the law in the end. The higher ups get their golden parachute at worst in corporate America.

  • Companies actually factor in the fines for breaking the law in their accounting. Ford calculated that it would be more profitable to release a vehicle which was known to be deadly since being found guilty for negligence (if it got that far) the fine the corporation would have to pay would be covered by the profit from selling the dangerous vehicles.