cobra89 ( @cobra89@beehaw.org ) English34•11 months agoId love to see the math on the amount of iron in a person’s blood, because I find it HIGHLY questionable that there’s enough iron in only 300 people to make a full iron sword. I’m too lazy to do it myself though.
Bezier ( @Bezier@suppo.fi ) English19•11 months ago- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longsword
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composition_of_the_human_body#Elemental_composition_list
The numbers roughly check out. Not sure how much one can extract by just draining the blood though.
GoodbyeBlueMonday ( @GoodbyeBlueMonday@startrek.website ) English13•11 months agoYou’re both in luck! Someone else linked to an article that breaks down how it could work in reality: https://startrek.website/comment/9430643
DudeDudenson ( @DudeDudenson@lemmings.world ) English9•11 months agoAll three of you are in luck! Someone made a video attempting to actually forge a sword this way!: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
UndercoverUlrikHD ( @UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev ) English4•11 months agoXcQ
Gotta hide it better than that chief
Hacksaw ( @Hacksaw@lemmy.ca ) English1•11 months agoWhat an awful video! You should be ashamed! I should be ashamed just for watching it!
psud ( @psud@aussie.zone ) English2•11 months agoIt’s a great video. My friends and I have watched it many times
Onno (VK6FLAB) ( @vk6flab@lemmy.radio ) English22•11 months agoThese are the required elements for making steel:
- Iron
- Carbon
- Manganese
- Chromium
- Phosphorus
- Sulphur
- Nickel
- Molybdenum
- Titanium
- Copper
- Boron
Source: https://www.cliftonsteel.com/education/11elementsfoundinsteel
So, iron is only step 1. Humans are carbon based lifeforms, so I’m guessing that carbon is also sorted, that’s step 2.
There’s plenty of other elements in the human body, like phosphorus and sulphur, but I’m guessing that it’s going to take more than 300 adults.
Source: https://sciencenotes.org/elements-in-the-human-body-and-what-they-do/
Source: https://sciencenotes.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/PeriodicTableHumanBody.png
xia ( @xia@lemmy.sdf.org ) English29•11 months ago Onno (VK6FLAB) ( @vk6flab@lemmy.radio ) English11•11 months agoYes
sushibowl ( @sushibowl@feddit.nl ) English13•11 months ago- Your link says these are elements commonly found in steel, not that they are all required. In fact it says of phosphorus and sulphur that they are generally undesirable.
- We don’t need to make a steel sword, an iron sword could do.
Either way you would definitely need carbon, but as you say that’s pretty easy. I don’t think any of the other elements are absolutely required.
general_kitten ( @general_kitten@sopuli.xyz ) English7•11 months agoSteel requires only iron and up to about 2% carbon
Rest are minor alloying elements used mainly in modern steel alloys to improve the steel beyond what just carbon steel could do like for example stainless steels
ColeSloth ( @ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ) English3•11 months agoThose are all of them, but that’s for a lot of different types of steels. You don’t have to have all of those metals to make steel. You really just need iron and a tiny bit of carbon. A few of your ingredients help with purity, and the rest are additives for different steel properties you may want. Like a touch of nickel for stainless steel.
Onno (VK6FLAB) ( @vk6flab@lemmy.radio ) English1•11 months agoI searched for ingredients for making steel. I’m obviously not a metallurgist, nor do I pretend to be one on the internet :)
The meme triggered my interest into discovering just what might be involved.
Clearly I’ve just scratched the surface …
barsoap ( @barsoap@lemm.ee ) English2•11 months agoYou only need iron and carbon the rest is already alloyed steel. You can definitely make a good blade out of only iron and carbon, it won’t be stainless, it might be difficult to harden just right, but it will be flexible and hold a keen edge if forged right. The smiths of ole dealt with nastier steels containing all kinds of things making it worse, not better (such as excessive amounts of sulphur and phosphorus) so I’d say they’d manage.
Mossy Feathers (She/They) ( @MossyFeathers@pawb.social ) English22•11 months agoListen. If they used surplus blood to do this (blood that was expired) and then held a raffle at the end of each year where all blood donors were entered to win a knife or sword made from the expired human blood iron, I bet they’d see blood donations skyrocket.
Somebody call NileRed asap
JovialMicrobial ( @JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee ) English5•11 months agoI want The Red Cross to hire you for marketing asap so this can actually happen.
KillingTimeItself ( @KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English14•11 months agook, but humans also regenerate blood, very slowly but it does happen. So theoretically, you could contract your family members to draw blood to be used to make a longsword out of your family’s bloodline. And have it become an heirloom.
Megaman_EXE ( @Megaman_EXE@beehaw.org ) English12•11 months agoI was curious how long it would take to make a sword out of your own blood. If my math was correct(it probably isn’t lol) the human body contains around 4.7 to 5.5 liters. And then you can apparently donate like 470 millileters every 8 weeks.
So take 4.7(assuming the smallest people) X 300 = 1410 L total blood
1410(total needed) / 0.47(donation amount) = 3000 donations X 8 weeks = 24,000 / 52 = 461.54 years
New mythology curse just dropped.
Dave ( @Dave@lemmy.nz ) English6•11 months agoAnd then you can apparently donate like 470 millileters every 8 weeks.
Safely. You could probably speed it up a bit if you have a higher risk tolerance.
Megaman_EXE ( @Megaman_EXE@beehaw.org ) English4•11 months agoTrue! I would assume a larger person would be able to give up more at once, too.
Dave ( @Dave@lemmy.nz ) English4•11 months agoA larger person might want a larger sword, though!
Megaman_EXE ( @Megaman_EXE@beehaw.org ) English3•11 months agoThat’s a good point. You couldn’t have someone like Shaq with a 3 foot sword. It would look too tiny! Gotta size it proportionally.
01101000_01101001 ( @01101000_01101001@mander.xyz ) English2•11 months agoOr if your enemy has been thoroughly dispatched
Dave ( @Dave@lemmy.nz ) English4•11 months agoThis estimate was for your own blood, not your enemy’s, so probably best not to thoroughly dispatch yourself.
Wirlocke ( @Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English11•11 months agoListen there’s definitely enough carbon in the body to boost that into a steel sword.
If we can make diamonds out of corpses, we can make steel.
🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 🏆 ( @Kolanaki@yiffit.net ) English5•11 months agoHold up… Wouldn’t a diamond sword be better than a steel one?
milicent_bystandr ( @milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee ) English7•11 months agoToo brittle, I think.
For ceremony, though, perfect!
galoisghost ( @galoisghost@aussie.zone ) English4•11 months agoYou know there’s a writer reading this meme somewhere: here; where ever it came from; where ever it will be reposted; and adding it to the story they are working on. Wonder where we’ll come across it first?
Pleb ( @pleb_maximus@feddit.de ) English2•11 months agoGlory.