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Jolla says the phone will sell for €299 (including a 1-year subscription license for Sailfish OS)
Emphasis mine. Mate, just what are you doing? A subscription license of a mobile OS? Wat? They could be working together with Purism, Pine64, PostMarketOS and other software+hardware groups trying to make linux phones popular, but instead they are making some proprietary stuff in their corner. Is it really that difficult to work with other people or what’s going on?
They are trying to make money to stay afloat. Postmarketos is a community project so it’s not comparable. And neither Purism nor Pine64 seem to be huge commercial successes just like Jolla, though they seem to be doing a bit better.
I have no problem with them making money, far from it. My problem is with how. If their OS didn’t require a friggin subscription service, I’d buy their phone. What happens when I don’t pay for the next payment cycle? My phone gets shut off? The OS stops working? I’m only limited to making phone calls? Fuck that.
If they need a subscription model for the OS, then maybe it shouldn’t stay afloat. Clearly there’s no money in this.
i am no fan of the proprietary model here, but i think they disingenuously compare it to the rabbit R1 device.
i love the idea of an local-llm-in-a-box, and they claim to have a working (minimal featureset) model that could be expanded. the rabbit device is a glorified siri
With less glory, BTW.
Yeah nope, Jolla still has some closed source parts, then I’d rather monthly fund a project truly open source, like Mobian or Droidian, and maybe with wider target devices horizons than Sony Experia devices only.
- LeFantome ( @LeFantome@programming.dev ) 11•10 months ago
Jolla is still going?
They have been owned by a Russian state-owned telecom corporation for a few years until recent events (Russia currently tries to push Sailfish OS fork as its “russian-made” mobile OS). Original Finnish management has split off to a new independent company with the same name last year, and this looks like their last ditch attempt to continue existing. I don’t expect they will last much longer (the reason why they were bought by Russia in the first place was that Jolla failed as a business).
Listen, if the phone itself can still run a custom Linux, then I’m all for it. Why? Because Microsoft needs some competition in this space, and my hatred for Microsoft dwarves any subscription fee. But, if they now lock it down like any Android handset, then fudge 'em.
Wow, what will they think of next!? A subscription for air? For using my own toilet? I hope this company dies quickly…
I welcome competition in the space even if it is imperfect.
The ai box is 700$ ? Who’s gonna buy it? Anyway, If you anyone want to run local llm on their own phone then try 4bit quantized phi-3.
With what app? How?
Wow, what will they think of next!? A subscription for air? For using my own toilet? I hope this company dies quickly…
A subscription for OS updates? That won’t for with most users.
The major advantage of a subscription model is that they don’t need most users, just enough to be financially sustainable.