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Partial orders can also have maximums
But maximums are only guaranteed to be represented by a unique element in in total orderings.
Edit: also, infinite sets might not necessarily contain an element of their maximum value.
Find the local maximum by taking the derivative:
dgay dt
Sexuality has multiple axes.
- Intensity
- Orientation (towards Men, Women, Frogs)
- Time (people have been known to have straight periods, gay periods, horny periods, ace periods, etc.)
There are probably others that we relate to kink and paraphilia.
So the very gayest person would have to be specifically defined. Which is gayer: the horniest bisexual or the average-libido gay who has absolute-zero-Kelvin interest in the other sex? Or the gay man who is totally in love with (and exclusively devoted to) his hubby and has been this way for fifty years?
The gay agenda’s got axes now?
Turning the frogs gay and then giving them axes!!
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Still annoyed that we still only have a frog face emoji and not a frog animal emoji.
Maybe in 2025?
Since the real numbers are a spectrum there exists one number which is the largest
There’s still gay people on Xitter? Why? It’s full of Nazis.
plenty of gay furry artists around on that platform making lots of gay furry porn
There’s 8 billion people. I’m pretty sure gay nazis exist.
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My aunt has gay nazi neighbors, they are real.
How is a spectrum supposed to not have a total ordering? To me saying sth is a spectrum always invokes an image of being able to map to/represent the property as an interval (unbounded or bounded) which should always give it a total ordering right?
It all comes down to definitions. First off, Totally Ordered is a property of the function that compares two elements not the set you are talking about. most sets have total orderings (if the axiom of choice is true then all sets have a total ordering). With Fields and vectorspaces there is the concept of a totally ordered Field which is essentially when the total ordering is compatible with it’s field operations (e.g the set of complex numbers has many total orderings, but the field of complex numbers is not an ordered field).
So it really depends on how we define the sexuality spectrum. So long as it’s simply a set then it has a total ordering. But if we allow us to add and multiply the gays then depending on how we define those functions it could be impossible to order the gay field.
Also a total ordering doesn’t mean that there is exactly 1 maximal element (it would need to be a strict total ordering to have that property), so we can all be the gayest.
Gay field… A word I never imagined will encounter in my life
Also the definition of ‘gay’ and ‘gayest’ is poorly defined. This assumes that gay is some sort of scalar, where in reality it’s a projection from a multidimensional ‘queerspace’ that can change the appearance of the spectrum wildly depending on the methodology the one projecting uses.
The color wheel, for instance
A colour wheel is not even partially ordered, I don’t think. There is a relation between some colours on the wheel but it’s not an ordering.
You can impose a partial ordering on it. HSL uses a hue angle. If we assume full saturation and lightness and pick an arbitrary direction to be positive, there’s your partial ordering. But not total ordering, there is no most clockwise color.
I feel like this doesn’t qualify as an ordering relationship, because of the circular nature of the wheel: for any two elements a and b (a ≠ b) on the wheel it’s both true that a is further clockwise than b and b is further clockwise than a (just keep rotating). This violates the antisymmetry property that an ordering relation should have.
You can fix it by establishing some point on the wheel as “least clockwise” (essentially unfolding it into just a straight line) but that immediately establishes a total ordering.
Measure acute only. Idk how to deal with 180° though
A spectrum can have multiple dimensions, but that might not matter if you’re only comparing in a single dimension?
Ig thats where most of my confusion comes from, to me saying sth is a “spectrum” always evokes sth along the lines of
gay <--------------------> straight(ie one dimensional) with things mapping into this interval. But ig if you also include more than one axis in your meaning of “spectrum” there wouldn’t be as straight forward of an ordering for any given “spectrum”. + Like @saigot@lemmy.ca said technically even the 1 dimensional spectrum can have more than one order and the “obvious” one is just obvious because we are used to it from another context not because its specifically relevant to this situation.Gynophilia, androphilia, romantic attraction, sexual attraction etc. absolutely makes everything complicated yeah. And then there’s cultural stuff and minor personal preferences. There’s no real end to how many axis you could legitimately argue for including in a sexuality chart.
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Awsome logic in the original original post.
On a totally unrelated note: whats the biggest number between 0 and 1 (0
The set of all living humans is finite, so (if sexuality is totally ordered) there is a gayest human. Edit:though they may not necessarily be unique.
Wouldn’t it be like 9.99 into infinity? 🤔 and since the human population (at least currently living) is not infinete, then at some 9.999999 there wouldn’t be anyone with a higher value? (I don’t know math)
0.9999… is equal to 1, so no
no, not really. In engineering math, sure but theoretical math it’s not
It is in theoretical math as well. I just woke up and don’t know the proof by heart but there is a proof for 0.99 repeating being true equal to 1.
What’s 3 * 1/3? What’s 3 * 0.3333333…?
Liberals hate this one weird trick
I thought Smith won most gay?
“Being gay isn’t a choice, it’s a competition. And I’m winning.”
Based anime set theorist.
There can be only one!
This misconception is also why— for the love of fucking god— people need to stop calling autism a “spectrum”. It doesn’t matter if it is one, what matters is what people think that means. There is no “extremely autistic” or “a little bit autistic”— those people are referring to cognitive ability. Those kinds of people don’t know the difference between autism and general intellectual disability. Autism as we “know” it is a fucking disaster of an understanding, and I will die long before we can get people to think correctly about it.
Also, the problem with people really, super wanting to be “autistic” because it makes them “special”, not knowing that autism is a full-neurological phenomenon and not just “you think different”. That’s another huge reason why nobody actually knows what it is and that, yes, it does in fact have a finite list of symptoms/traits. x_x
Source: autistic, introspective and self-understanding, and rational
