- Track_Shovel ( @Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net ) English20•4 months ago
This is something we really need to take on: not all value needs to be utility or monetary based. Things can have existential value, too.
Unfortunately we take the former approach with just about everything. We willingly tie our worth as a human to our work performance or some other ridiculous metric. You don’t have to be the paragon of project management, or a world famous influencer to be deemed worthy. You are worthy just because you exist.
Trees, frogs, and mosses all have inalienable rights to exist, too. Since they comprise the natural world, and actually perform functions to sustain said world, they have value. Moreso, I would argue, than an exemplar of project management, or bumping up a number on the NYSE. More value than the table we could make from the trees, or the extra bit of space we could use from destroying wetland (frog) habitat.
- Maeve ( @Maeve@kbin.social ) 4•4 months ago
Reminds me of this story. The commentary isn’t really necessary, imo. The story stands without it.
- stoy ( @stoy@lemmy.zip ) 10•4 months ago
This implies that only children enjoy trees for their natural beauty, that is just dumb.
- Track_Shovel ( @Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net ) English4•4 months ago
beuty
That is just dumb
Uh…
That’s also not what this is implying. Go make a board game about jumping to conclusions. I hear red staplers are on sale at Walmart.
- stoy ( @stoy@lemmy.zip ) 7•4 months ago
Then tell me what it implies when all adults in the comic wants to cut the tree down, and only the kid appreciate the beauty of the tree as it is?
- Alice ( @Alice@beehaw.org ) 2•4 months ago
The child is someone who doesn’t have a financial stake in what the tree is used for. It’s narrative shorthand for innocence, but it doesn’t mean “only children think this way”.
Otherwise it wouldn’t be encouraging the readers, presumably adults, to think that way, because it would be impossible.
- Darukhnarn ( @Darukhnarn@feddit.de ) 8•4 months ago
All of these views are valid. A tree has to be seen for what it can provide. If it’s more valuable to society and nature as a tree, leave it be. If other trees can gain from it being removed earlier than its natural decay demands, I’d argue to remove it.
- tastysnacks ( @tastysnacks@programming.dev ) 3•4 months ago
A live tree has no value in on our financial system.
- Darukhnarn ( @Darukhnarn@feddit.de ) 3•4 months ago
Trees prevent soil erosion, keep water clean, provide the basis for many beneficial insects and so forth and so on. They have a giant value in our financial system.
- tastysnacks ( @tastysnacks@programming.dev ) 2•4 months ago
Ok, now put a monetary value to that
- Darukhnarn ( @Darukhnarn@feddit.de ) 1•4 months ago
I‘d have to get my tables from work. It highly depends on the species, soil, size, location, age, natural area of the species and so forth. A decently sized oak at around 100-150 years old usually gets weighed in at around 2000€. Variation however is a given.
- tastysnacks ( @tastysnacks@programming.dev ) 1•4 months ago
And who pays the 2000€? Is it an annual payment?
- Darukhnarn ( @Darukhnarn@feddit.de ) 1•4 months ago
It’s an investment? Just like an office building or a company car?
- Zorsith ( @Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English1•4 months ago
A live tree has no immediate quarterly value in our financial system.
- Hacksaw ( @Hacksaw@lemmy.ca ) 1•4 months ago
This tree is by a path, so it’s better to leave it be.
Other trees can be sustainably harvested and made into whatever our society needs.
- Darukhnarn ( @Darukhnarn@feddit.de ) 1•4 months ago
Depends. Is it stable? Does it pose a threat to passer bys ?
- AceQuorthon ( @AceQuorthon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 5•4 months ago
I like how the comic becomes progressively sun bleached
- athos77 ( @athos77@kbin.social ) 4•4 months ago
I wanna build a tree house and live symbiotically.
- (⬤ᴥ⬤) ( @nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 2•4 months ago
one will protect you the other will try to kill you
- Maeve ( @Maeve@kbin.social ) 2•4 months ago
<3
- FiniteBanjo ( @FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ) 1•4 months ago
If they only get like a day of prep time, Carpenter. If it’s a longterm battle, the youth.
- Johanno ( @Johanno@feddit.de ) 1•4 months ago
I would imagine to set it on fire…