making the feature rely less heavily on user-generated content from sites like Reddit
Imagine selling out reddit/buying access to the comments for AI just to immediately unprioritise it
A new deal is being forged with 4chan instead.
Can’t wait for a text message from mom saying she was looking for a cookie recipe and got gore porn & some frog instead…
The company made “more than a dozen technical improvements” to AI Overviews …
… making the feature rely less heavily on user-generated content from sites like Reddit
So it prefers the results that Google normally deprioritizes? I guess we have that in common
I almost wonder what Huffman is thinking right now - he could have been so very close to becoming a billionaire, managing the repository of human general technical knowledge explained simply, but he blew it by being a greedy piggy…
Not that he will ever admit that, even to himself.
I don’t think Spaz is thinking at all. That was how Reddit imploded.
His decision tree is like: I say yes, content creators say no, admin rights say yes tho, market ends up saying no tho, the end.
It seems like I’ve heard this story before somewhere lately…
I say yes
You say no
You say stop
And I say go, go, go….So many songs about rape… tbf I don’t get that vibe from that Beatles song that seems more about just opposite phrases:-), but in general, we have it far too much in our culture.
Messages simply cannot be removed from their context and retain their meaning. According to Paul McCartney, as you say, this is simply a song about opposites.
What? Oh no, I had not written down the recipe for using gasoline to cook my spaghetti! Whatever shall I do?
Step 1: add gasoline.
Step 2: add more gasoline.
Step 3: don’t think about the bridge…
Step 4: what spaghetti?
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And slow down search even more?
Human review is NEVER going to happen. The amount of comments from Reddit and user queries is mind boggling
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It’s an interesting concept. But right now, Google Search is the best argument in favor of Bing.
Or DuckDuckGo, which uses the same index as Bing, but with more privacy
DuckDuckGo is my default search tool. It’s great.
Maybe it is a firedox issue, but i have serious issues with location based searchs on DDG. Like, results in the next state over sort of bad.
That may be a feature of DDG. In respecting privacy, it may be ignoring your location. Since I never let sites have access to location data if I can prevent it, I don’t know.
I know, but it’s frustrating when i search “restaurants in Cityville” and the results show restaurants in Cityville Indiana instead of my homestate. Or i search for “T-Mobile stores near me” and they list off ones 3 counties over instead of the ones near me. I understand that it is a privacy thing, but it is very annoying.
Same thing happens when i look up items on the grocery store website to see if they have something i need. Firefox seems to think i live over an hour away in Dearborn Michigan, so i have to adjust my location manually every time. I understand why it happens and i can accept it , but that doesn’t mean it isn’t frustrating.
I’m pretty sure I live in a city between you and Dearborn but I don’t want to say the names and dox us. I just thought it was fun to piece together with the few clues and my familiarity with the area
Firefox will let you whitelist sites that are allowed to your location. Just whitelist those sites. Or use a search engine that doesn’t respect privacy, say Google or StartPage.
You think Bing aka Microsoft is not planning on this exact same folly?
I’m sure they are. But they haven’t yet. And after this, they might at least borrow a page from Apple and make sure it works first.
I mean… They have though. It’s not in bing.com but “Microsoft copilot” is their newly rebranded Bing + AI search engine, which they’re embedding directly into desktops. They’ve been doing the AI summaries longer than Google has afaik.
I haven’t noticed it appearing unasked in internet search results, and I never use the desktop search except for on-device queries.
Like Apple Maps? Or mms messaging?
Nobody’s perfect.
I don’t know of any MMS problem, but I also don’t generally text outside of iMessages. Maps was a cockup, and Apple owned it.
Owned it by forcing everyone to manually install google maps, which they were already using happily? Or owned it by giving a pr spin after the fact? Group messaging via mms still doesn’t work correctly due to iMessage.
Owned up to the mistake, then suggested alternatives while they were finishing Maps, which had been rushed due to the launch of Android and Jobs not wanting a competitor’s CEO sitting on Apple’s board.
I have no idea what you’re on about messaging. I can use it just fine.
You don’t say.
Well, cool. Now fix it.
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@makeasnek @schizoidman YaCy is still around.
And https://searx.space/ is an open source metasearch search engine with many instances. (Try https://searx.be/ if you want to test it out.)
SearX/SearXNG allows you to aggregate results from a number of different search engines. You choose which ones, and they’re stored in your browser without setting up an account.
@makeasnek @pears is working on that
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@makeasnek On a broader note, I think possibly the best approach for decentralised, open-sourced web search might be an evolution on the SearXNG model.
At the top of the funnel, you have meta search engines that query and aggregate results from a number of smaller niche search engines.
The metasearch engines are open source, anyone with a spare server or a web hosting account can spin one up.
For some larger sites that are trustworthy, such as Wikipedia, the site’s own search engine might be what’s queried.
For the Fediverse and other similar federated networks, the query is fed through a trusted node on the network.
And then there’s a host of smaller niche search engines, which only crawl and index pages on a small number of websites vetted and curated by a human.
(Perhaps on a particular topic? Or a local library or university might curate a list of notable local websites?)
(Alternatively, it might be that a crawler for a web index like Curlie.org only crawls websites chosen by its topic moderators.)
In this manner, you could build a decent web search engine without needing the scale of Google or Microsoft.
@ajsadauskas sounds like what @pears is trying to do
Everyone remember to pollute your answers wherever you post them at least once a day.
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Am I the only one who doesn’t have access to this? I’m in canada but using a VPN doesn’t seem to change anything. Not that I care about AI, but I’d like to see the shitshow myself.
Thanks to screw-ups like these, I was on the hunt for a better search engine. I may have found one in kagi.com. Anyone else willing to pay to get rid of tracking, check it out!
