Hello there. Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for a Linux distro for grandparents? They are over 70 years old, with an old HP desktop and laptop running Windows 10. All they need is a Web browser, so no need for special software or wine to run Windows programs. Would preferably like something that is low maintenance so I don’t have to be constant tech support for them (apart from the initial install and setup). Thanks for any suggestions.
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Mint or debian will do the trick. Set up a script to update the system and turn it into a button or desktop shortcut, name it something like “click here to update” and done
For that matter you could use the built in autoupdate tools
Thanks for the ideas. Will the update script still need sudo to run, or can it be done at an unprivileged user level?
I think in Mint you can set up auto update on their updater app
Im not sure but its probably fine to sudo it (now someone will come here and say it is a national security problem)
I would go Debian, purely because it will result in less maintenance on your end. Maybe show them several DEs and see what looks easiest to them.
Actually yes. Debian might be a bit tricky to set up, even Debian 12 might have minor issues here and there, but once it’s working, it’s gonna work forever.
Rock solid sounds like something your grandparents would appreciate, and what will minimize your tech support work.
Thanks, and good idea on letting them check out the different DE’s. Does Debian have multiple DE’s ready to go, or do you need to install each one individually?
It’s been a long time, but I do think you can install multiple with the installer and then switch between them at login.
It does have live versions for several DEs (gnome, kde, xfce, probably a couple others). If you have a bunch of spare usb sticks you could flash each of them into one and swap between them
I hate to say it but they’d probably be better off with an android tablet or an iPad.
Red Hat fuckery aside, I still feel like Fedora is the best refined distro out of the box for the average user, and Gnome is the most consistent desktop. Immutability is perfect for grandparent types who don’t need much of any customization, so I’d strongly consider Silverblue. Just make it a habit to go upgrade releases every 6 months, you should be visiting more anyway ;)
I was thinking Fedora as I use it personally on all my computers and really like it, but I thought Gnome would be too much of a drastic change for them since they are coming from Windows. Might just put it on a USB just in case, and let them test out a couple DE’s before committing to anything.
If they are used to Windows, go with Kinoite. I agree with the previous sentiment, that atomic distros are much safer. Far fewer bits and pieces that can break. I love it.
It is different, but it’s also logical, simple, and consistent. It handles average use cases very well, whereas KDE is more typical to Windows users, but can be cluttered and confusing because it seems to try to address every use case.
Mint is the way to go. Easy UI, stupidly stable, relatively up-to-date, easy to fix problems.
I know how this sounds, but (rolling) openSUSE.
I have my parents and granparents on Tumbleweed, but I update it manually when I visit.
I set them with a big macos style dock at the bottom of the screen and that’s all they need tbh (Firefox, Kmail, Office, Signal, photo gallery … that’s it).
Never had any issues, but can’t complain much about Debian & Fedora either (I had them on Debian for like a decade, less than a year on Fedora, I think now 4 years on Tumbleweed), it’s just that it was a pain for me to upgrade them when the time came, so I wanted a rolling distro.However, if I ever have to set them up with a new PC (instead of constantly upgrading their rigs with old parts from my PCs), I’ll try opensuse.org/Aeon. Seems low maintenance & low extra config for my usecase.
Just keep them on Windows 10 unless there is an issue. Don’t make them learn anything else.
Too unstable. Windows keeps changing shit, advertising shit. Dump it and move on.
Not to mention that Windows 10 is going EOL next year
That’s what they say but Windows 10 has a 70% market share
True but at the same time it is hard for someone older to use a computer let along learn something completely new.
I had some issues with an old HP Laptop not so long ago because it uses some weird Wifi that needs Bluetooth enabled and it was a hassle to get it working. In Mint it simply worked out of the box, so I stuck with it on that device. Mint with Cinnamon is also very similar looking to Windows and should provide a smooth transition for your grandparents.
I installed hacky ChromeOS to my grandma’s laptop a few years ago. She never had issues with the OS itself, rather hardware issues. It’s easy to learn and ChromeOS is literally just a web browser, it’s not even useful for anything else. Though I would recommend you install something like Fedora Silverblue, Kinoite, or a distro from UniversalBlue instead. Container based distros are secure and hard to break.
For grannies, I like to go with Endless OS. Curiously, it combines aspects of the two most named distros under this post; based on Debian and utilizing OSTree (like Fedora Atomic does).
It’s often overlooked (for some reason), but actually combines the best of both worlds:
- Over two years of support (since release), while Fedora Atomic only offers 13 months of support since release
- Automatic updates are enabled by default and updates are applied atomically in the background, while Debian(-based) are not capable of atomic updates
- Does not even offer installing software through
aptand doesn’t even have it’s ownrpm-ostreecounterpart. Instead, it goes all-in on Flatpak.
The only thing that might give something like Fedora Atomic an edge would be by installing any of the opinionated uBlue images (like Aurora/Bazzite/Bluefin etc.) that just apply and ship fixes for you (without requiring you to do anything for it) and that are even capable of automatically applying updates to major releases for you in the background. This is basically just hands-off mode.