We have this shit at work, they make it incredibly hard to get a fucking attachment as a real attachment instead of a link to their cloud
Specially annoying since my organization is “geofence” but we work with people all over the world… So MS insists on switching attachments to links nobody can open outside my country
Blame your company for not configuring that shit, or choosing to let MS handle it all.
Personally, no company should be using Office 365 and external mail. Bring that shit back in house.
NoKnow (wtf autoincorrect?) why bringing it in house costs more? Because it’s worth it, for the control.I speak from experience that no one other than professionals should be handling their own mail servers in 2024. I worked for a mail host. The amount of spam and attacks that befall a mail provider, even a small one, is bonkers. Plus, mail is just too damn important.
I wish it wasn’t the case because the idea of everyone privately hosting their own mail servers would be pretty awesome. Sadly the modern internet makes it way too risky.
God if that isn’t the truth. We changed from Thryv to rackspace and we went from zero spam to 30 a day and this is AFTER they block a bunch. Waste of my time every day having to go through them.
On premise exchange is fucking trash. Get out of here with that shit.
Tomato potato… My company uses MS because it’s the fucking industry default and it sucks
I would put more onus on them if we were talking about some niche thing they refused to give up. But MS is what everyone uses and they wouldn’t be able to ditch it altogether because MS has a monopoly
Huh? Outlook gives you two clear options when attaching a document. One is to attach as a copy, and one is to share it.
Yes but If you chose the full attachment, half the time I just get the link
This is because MS will force it if they think the attachment is an odd extension or too big or whatever
I think this it not necessarily a bad thing. Worked in an office where they produce GB of CAD files. Sending it as attachment would fail for most clients because of their mailbox size, and receiving it also sucks because it would clog the local outlook inbox file, and everything would crawl to a halt when you open Outlook in the morning.
No, it only does it when it is too big. And that is very convenient rather than it trying to send your message and then giving you a failure notice. Why are you bitching about features that actively make your life easier?
There is a lot to bitch at M$ about, but this is not one of them.
It doesn’t make my life any better as those links never work.
If it works for you fine, don’t need to be offended like I insulted your girlfriend
If the links don’t work, that is a “you” problem.
Yeah, it sure does sound like it would be hard to have a notification if the attachment is going to fail due to size policies, and then have an option to use the link or cancel the attachment (and have you choose another way). It would also be unheard of for there to be a setting in that dialog to say to always do whatever action you take so it only inconveniences those who go with the default once.
User-hostile software is never a “you” problem. This applies to a number of FOSS products, as well.
If that were the case, it would confuse users. It would be flooded with tickets about the weird notification that they got and didn’t read and how they can’t attach files anymore.
“Cancel the link attachment”???
Fucking press backspace! Jesus Christ, did you just get your first computer ever? I’m getting the picture that critical thinking isn’t really your forte.
Lol, you think MS is watching and will give a treat for being such a nice little follower?
Nope, I just deal with OneDrive support constantly and I can say definitively that it’s pretty decent at what it does, and if the links you are getting or sending are not working, it is your fault.
If you want to bitch about something substantive, how about bitching about how 365 has like 20 admin panels that are opaque about what they are and what they do, terrible menu layouts in those menus, etc.
That stuff is a very real problem.
Some boomer who can’t figure out how cloud drives work is not a real issue.
That’s probably because your file is over 10MB and would be rejected by most receiving systems
Yes, that’s what MS thinks… Yet that’s not the case as I can successfully get the files off SharePoint to my PC and then email them
The issue is MS doing this on its own accord and without proper warning or way to permanently override
That’s my data, I don’t know you!
If you save it on your computer instead of on their servers, how could they possibly be expected to analyze your data? Come on now, be reasonable!
exactly! do people expect windows to scan every local file too??!
Pretty sure it does that already, at least with defender
how would they even monetize that? so basic
Won’t somebody please think of the starving shareholders.
But you’ll at least let us take a smaller or bigger peek right? Don’t worry we have a screen recorder ready, you don’t have to do anything.
Had that happen at work. I just drag-and-dropped a file into the Outlook web-UI, thinking it’d attach as an e-mail. Turns out, they recently changed that feature and you now have to drop into the right half of the area. If you drop into the left half, it uploads into OneDrive.
I accidentally did that. The document had personal data inside. That’s a breach of GDPR. Fucking ace.
(I’m not sure that attaching to the e-mail isn’t also a breach of the GDPR, since my company switched Microsoft 365 for various things. But yeah, I certainly would have liked a confirmation dialog.)
Maybe next year Xbox cloud gaming should team up with Outlook and Onedrive for the “Ultimate” cloud computing conversion feature:
When you drag and drop a file into Outlook, Windows mail, or Exchange, the file bounces around like in the window like in the game Breakout. You can only attach a copy if you hit every word in your email message. If you let the file fall past the signature line, it makes a Onedrive link automatically.
My favorite Windows drag-and-drop feature is that if ever I drag a file over the left pane of Explorer on its way to another window, the whole thing freezes up for a minute or so. I think it’s polling all the network drives just in case I might decide to drop it there, and since my NAS is turned off (it broke) it just waits until the connection times out. Of course in traditional Microsoft style this locks up the UI thread. I have to remember to drag everything off to the right and then go around.
Do ah look lack ah know hwat a Onedrive is?
remember kids when onedrive folders are set to “available on this pc” it does both
Except I don’t want it in a OneDrive folder, I want it in My Docs. Which you now have to browse for every fucking time.
Well, I don’t, because I reconfigured that shit.
I’m filing this under the new style login pages after inputting your email address:
“Do you want to log in using password, passkey, email confirmation?”
Is there a work around? I feel like every time I figure out how to keep it from uploading and just save locally, it resets the next time I boot up. I’ve been using word because the transcribe feature is very helpful for navigating uni with my disabilities
Try hitting F12 to save… It should just show file explorer instead of all the cloud bs.
Insert “use Linux” joke. But I’m absolutely serious when I say that using my company’s M365 stuff using the web versions in Firefox on Linux is pretty pleasant.
Hmm, in my experience Microsoft 365 on Firefox (Linux) works horrendously.
I’m a Firefox user, but when I need to work on OneDrive or Outlook Web I open Chrome because it works way better. And that’s a shame.
Use a user agent switcher. Usually fixes the problems.
Sir if you will simply fill out this form in triplicate…
And initial here, and here, provide your SSN#, yes and bank account and a credit card number there, and mother’s maiden name yes, and provide rights to the soul of your first, second, and third-born child…
Then you are all set! Oh wait, now just watch this advertisement, and this other one here, and this other one here, and also this other one, and we will allow you to save… hey, where are you going?
Pictures you can hear.
Use Cryptomator. You can then use any cloud storage provider knowing they can’t read your files.
Or just don’t use cloud storage bruh
it’s good for 3-2-1 backup rule though. but you can also ask a relative or a friend to let you plug a NAS to their router.
Just encrypt the backup instead of keeping track of the encryption for every file?
Not always an option.
We use windows at work, which is annoying as a software developer, and I WFH three days a week. I need some files available on both machines and cloud is the best option. I’m not about to be taking a flash drive between home and work.
I use syncthing, which works great unless you need a ton of space.
We have a list of approved software we can install and that isn’t one of them.
Why not? It’s another useful area to use as a backup.
or just pgp encrypt them
What tool would you recommend for that?
kleopatra is good, just make sure to backup your private key. If you are comfortable with a cli you could use gnupg. Its man page is good.
If you are comfortable with a cli you could use gnupg. Its man page is good.
If I have cloud storage mounted somewhere I need to be able to drag and drop directories in and out, see the files inside in an unencrypted form, and they should transparently be uploaded encrypted. This could very well be achieved by a bunch of scripts involving gnupg, but then that’s what’s I’m looking for, because gnupg by itself wouldn’t be productive to use unless as a one-off.
This seems promising: https://szymonkrajewski.pl/encrypted-cloud-drive-rclone/
Well it depends on your use case. You could make a script to encrypt a copy of all the files in a directory, make a folder in the cloud storage, and then move the encrypted files to that directory.
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Good luck troubleshooting problems when an update of Windows breaks something.
Just switch to Linux and call it a day.
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Thats great for people who don’t want to, or can’t switch to linux.
Goddang it, Bobby. OneDrive’s a bastard drive!
“Yeah but what if someone wants to store their files in Onedrive?”
“Well, Bobby. We ask them politely but firmly to leave.”
Hot dog. Hot dog. Hot dog…
